[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Thu Jul 19 01:11:01 UTC 2012

I stand corrected. But still 30,000 starting with opportunity to clime up for just 6 months of training sounds like a pretty good deal. Its better then living on SSDI.

Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller

--- On Tue, 7/17/12, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 11:18 PM
> Hello,
> 
> The starting wage for one of these IRS positions in some
> states might
> be 45 K, but most of the time it's closer to 30k or there
> abouts of
> course depending on how much experience one comes in with.
> They come
> in as a GS5 and climb the ladder from there.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 7/18/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> > I agree.
> > These senters should also have the NFB philosophy.
> > Blessings, Joshua
> >
> > On 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> As I see it, the job training at this center is
> probably its only
> >> strong point. You have to remember, though, that
> most people are going
> >> to live on campus unless they have family or
> friends in Arkansas that
> >> they can stay with, so they can commute every day.
> If not, what are
> >> they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate
> it in 6 months? I
> >> don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible
> leases aren't that
> >> easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the
> center is as badly
> >> run as it is. I considered going there myself for
> the computer
> >> networking certification, but changed my mind after
> hearing stories
> >> very similar to the opinions that have been
> expressed here. As I said,
> >> it's definitely a shame that this is the only
> center that has such a
> >> good track record with placing the blind in
> profitable employment.
> >> Other centers should exist for this purpose as
> well. For one place to
> >> carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering
> how high the
> >> unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how
> much farther along we
> >> would get if even several states had a center of
> this nature.
> >>
> >> On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Anmol,
> >>> excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS
> program. Also, the entrance
> >>> requirements were on the website and I hope
> they still are.
> >>> You have to have good technology skills as well
> as decent educational
> >>> skills
> >>> to get in. Since you will work for the
> government, they require you to
> >>> be
> >>> a
> >>> US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and
> be willing to relocate. They
> >>> also
> >>> find you a job after your training. I was at a
> job fair and know who I
> >>> ran
> >>> into?
> >>> An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job
> into that agency, going to
> >>> WSB
> >>> was a good idea. He said they get students from
> there all the time and
> >>> that
> >>> the next class containing 30 students was
> starting soon.
> >>>
> >>> If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh
> the pros and cons. Also,
> >>> I
> >>> can definitely see why rehab would send clients
> there; they gaurantee a
> >>> job
> >>> afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing
> because more successful case
> >>> closures mean they keep the funding they have.
> >>> Ashley
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Anmol Bhatia
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment Training Programs
> >>>
> >>> Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not
> belong to any
> >>> organization.
> >>> They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had
> a table at the exhabit
> >>> hall
> >>> at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of
> WSB to the extend that some
> >>> on
> >>> this list might think I am, however, I do not
> like reading some of the
> >>> comments I read on here from people who do not
> necessarly know all the
> >>> facts.
> >>> The things Amber has mentioned are valid and
> credible because she is
> >>> there
> >>> now. If I were considering attending WSB, I
> would seriously take into
> >>> consideration the things she mentioned.
> However, WSB does have an
> >>> employment
> >>> track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to
> send clients to a
> >>> training
> >>> center which can lead to employment like the
> WSB rather than an
> >>> independent
> >>> living training center like the NFB training
> centers that do a good job
> >>> in
> >>> providing independent living training, but do
> not lead to employment. I
> >>> personally understand the value of how
> independent living training is
> >>> important in being successful in employment and
> most rehab counselors do
> >>> as
> >>> well, but we have to justify how we are
> spending the tax payer money to
> >>> largely ignorent sighted society who do not
> necessarly see the value of
> >>> independent training for a blind person.
> >>> To answer the question, the IRS is a promising
> job that pays the
> >>> starting
> >>> salarry of $45,000 I think with growth
> opportunity. So you have to
> >>> decide
> >>> if
> >>> you want to put up with some of the things
> mentioned: bad food, unclean
> >>> building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good
> job after that.
> >>> Anmol
> >>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they
> never make me sad. Perhaps
> >>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but
> it is vague, like a
> >>> breeze
> >>> among flowers.
> >>> Hellen Keller
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment Training Programs
> >>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list"
> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
> >>>> I suspect that certain students or
> >>>> staff at WSB are ACB members and
> >>>> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself
> doesn't have a
> >>>> particular
> >>>> organizational position.
> >>>> Arielle
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that
> the Little Rock
> >>>> chapter of the NFB
> >>>> > meets at World Services for the Blind.
> Josh, if
> >>>> according to you they try so
> >>>> > hard to recruit students to the ACB,
> then why do they
> >>>> allow the NFB meet in
> >>>> > their building and the local chapter
> of the ACB does
> >>>> not meet there?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Anmol
> >>>> > I seldom think about my limitations,
> and they never
> >>>> make me sad. Perhaps
> >>>> > there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it is
> >>>> vague, like a breeze
> >>>> > among flowers.
> >>>> > Hellen Keller
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester
> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
> Rock Employment
> >>>> Training Programs
> >>>> >> To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing
> >>>> list"
> >>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012,
> 12:25 PM
> >>>> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
> >>>> >> graduating from college.
> >>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >     Let'
> sleet her decide if she
> >>>> >> would benefit from a complete
> training
> >>>> >> > program or not. All three NFB
> centers have
> >>>> >> employment-related assistance and
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > offer training in several
> specific areas. Have
> >>>> you been
> >>>> >> to an NFB center
> >>>> >> > yourself?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Peter Donahue
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> >> > To: "National Association of
> Blind Students
> >>>> mailing
> >>>> >> list"
> >>>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012
> 11:01 AM
> >>>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB
> Little Rock
> >>>> Employment
> >>>> >> Training Programs
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > She has the skills to take
> care of herself.
> >>>> >> > She needs job training.
> >>>> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI
> program?
> >>>> >> > Thanks, Joshua
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue
> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >> Good morning everyone,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> 
>    LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
> >>>> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had
> a long
> >>>> >> >> and
> >>>> >> >> checkered history
> concerning its treatment
> >>>> of the
> >>>> >> blind persons it claims
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> to
> >>>> >> >> serve. The conditions you
> describe have
> >>>> existed
> >>>> >> there for many years. At
> >>>> >> >> one
> >>>> >> >> time it was accredited by
> the National
> >>>> >> Accreditation Council for
> Agencies
> >>>> >> >> Serving the Blind and
> Physically
> >>>> Handicapped (NAC.)
> >>>> >> Its former blind
> >>>> >> >> director was a key figure
> in NAC. NAC had
> >>>> a
> >>>> >> reputation for condoning
> >>>> >> >> practices that often led
> to blind persons
> >>>> being
> >>>> >> abused, mistreated, and
> >>>> >> >> in
> >>>> >> >> the case of sheltered
> workshops being paid
> >>>> less
> >>>> >> than the Federal minimum
> >>>> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called
> "Standards of
> >>>> Accreditation"
> >>>> >> failed to address
> >>>> >> >> these
> >>>> >> >> issues. For example the
> standards called
> >>>> for the
> >>>> >> agency's grounds to be
> >>>> >> >> pleasant but did not
> require the
> >>>> sheltered
> >>>> >> workshops they accredited to
> >>>> >> >> pay
> >>>> >> >> all employees including
> the blind
> >>>> employees the
> >>>> >> Federal minimum wage.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> 
>    In 1985 NAC held its annual
> >>>> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB
> was
> >>>> >> >> there
> >>>> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the
> then Arkansas
> >>>> Enterprises
> >>>> >> for the Blind and the
> >>>> >> >> Arkansas School for the
> Blind were
> >>>> picketed by the
> >>>> >> NFB. While at AEB a
> >>>> >> >> number of AEB clients
> told us that there
> >>>> were
> >>>> >> problems and that it needed
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> to
> >>>> >> >> be investigated. I know
> because Mary and I
> >>>> were on
> >>>> >> that picket line.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> 
>    Judging from what I've read
> >>>> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone
> but
> >>>> >> >> vestiges of its evil
> doings remain at
> >>>> agencies such
> >>>> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
> >>>> >> >> hoping you will
> eventually attend an NFB
> >>>> training
> >>>> >> center. These centers
> >>>> >> >> are
> >>>> >> >> a big cut above anything
> else out there.
> >>>> All the
> >>>> >> best.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Peter Donahue
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett"
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >>>> >> >> To: "National Association
> of Blind
> >>>> Students mailing
> >>>> >> list"
> >>>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 11:33 PM
> >>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little Rock
> >>>> Employment
> >>>> >> Training Programs
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Amber,
> >>>> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd
> have to say first
> >>>> that I
> >>>> >> commend your efforts in
> >>>> >> >> sticking to the facts or
> trying to. I
> >>>> think you did
> >>>> >> a good job for
> >>>> >> >> someone
> >>>> >> >> who did not have a good
> experience.  I've
> >>>> also
> >>>> >> heard bad rumors about it.
> >>>> >> >> Second, with all this
> publicity, I'm real
> >>>> surprised
> >>>> >> that
> >>>> >> >> LWSB continues to stay
> open and attracting
> >>>> the
> >>>> >> clients it does.
> >>>> >> >> Which program were you
> in? Independent
> >>>> living? or a
> >>>> >> job program?
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> About rules, personally
> signing in and out
> >>>> doesn't
> >>>> >> bother me. You are in
> >>>> >> >> a
> >>>> >> >> training setting and with
> this litigious
> >>>> society,
> >>>> >> they need to account
> >>>> >> >> for
> >>>> >> >> everyone. What if there
> was an emergency?
> >>>> They need
> >>>> >> to know where
> >>>> >> >> everyone
> >>>> >> >> is. People go missing
> everyday and are
> >>>> never found.
> >>>> >> Youwouldn't want your
> >>>> >> >> parents or friends or
> family calling and
> >>>> them
> >>>> >> saying, oh, we do not know
> >>>> >> >> where your son is; 
> he may be on campus
> >>>> or
> >>>> >> not.
> >>>> >> >> The other thing about the
> no microwave or
> >>>> fridge
> >>>> >> would bother me. As a
> >>>> >> >> college student, I
> enjoyed having my own
> >>>> fridge in
> >>>> >> my room.
> >>>> >> >> It gave me some freedom
> to have a cold
> >>>> drink or
> >>>> >> cold snack when I wanted
> >>>> >> >> to.
> >>>> >> >> Since the cafeteria
> closed early at 7:30,
> >>>> this was
> >>>> >> definitely nice.
> >>>> >> >> That seems early to me
> given the fact that
> >>>> I eat
> >>>> >> late at home; between 7
> >>>> >> >> and
> >>>> >> >> 8pm.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are
> making a good
> >>>> personal
> >>>> >> decision to leave. So I wish
> >>>> >> >> you luck in your next
> decision to find
> >>>> decent
> >>>> >> training or whatever you
> >>>> >> >> need.
> >>>> >> >> I don't remember your
> intro to us, so I'm
> >>>> not sure
> >>>> >> if you are a current
> >>>> >> >> college student or recent
> grad.
> >>>> >> >> If you haven't finished
> school, I hope you
> >>>> can as
> >>>> >> it opens up more doors
> >>>> >> >> to
> >>>> >> >> you.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Ashley
> >>>> >> >> -----Original
> Message-----
> >>>> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> >>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 10:36 PM
> >>>> >> >> To: 'National Association
> of Blind
> >>>> Students mailing
> >>>> >> list'
> >>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little Rock
> >>>> Employment
> >>>> >> Training Programs
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Ian,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I am currently at WSB,
> but am planning to
> >>>> leave on
> >>>> >> Friday.  Here is what
> >>>> >> >> I
> >>>> >> >> have experienced.  I
> will do my best to
> >>>> give
> >>>> >> only facts and not color
> >>>> >> >> those
> >>>> >> >> facts with my opinion,
> though before I
> >>>> begin, I
> >>>> >> will clearly state that
> >>>> >> >> if
> >>>> >> >> you are asking for an
> opinion as to
> >>>> whether or not
> >>>> >> one should attend this
> >>>> >> >> program in order to
> obtain a job, I would
> >>>> have to
> >>>> >> say no.  But I am not
> >>>> >> >> you
> >>>> >> >> or anyone else for that
> matter, and what I
> >>>> have
> >>>> >> experienced here has
> >>>> >> >> colored
> >>>> >> >> my opinion, and may not
> be very reliable.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> The facts:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> *Several students
> (including myself) have
> >>>> had
> >>>> >> valuables go missing.
> >>>> >> >> *The food does not seem
> to meet health and
> >>>> safety
> >>>> >> codes. (just one
> >>>> >> >> example-there are
> many-one evening we had
> >>>> chicken
> >>>> >> wings, and though the
> >>>> >> >> outside was hot, the
> inside was not.  I
> >>>> would
> >>>> >> not mention this, except
> >>>> >> >> this
> >>>> >> >> is not an isolated
> incident.)
> >>>> >> >> *The showers have light
> bulbs  (not
> >>>> protected
> >>>> >> by any kind of panels)
> >>>> >> >> inside
> >>>> >> >> the actual stall where
> water could be
> >>>> accidentally
> >>>> >> splashed.  I brought
> >>>> >> >> this
> >>>> >> >> up as a concern, so they
> put a cover over
> >>>> mine, but
> >>>> >> mine is not the only
> >>>> >> >> one
> >>>> >> >> that this is the case
> with (as confirmed
> >>>> by other
> >>>> >> clients.)
> >>>> >> >> *Despite several
> complaints from many
> >>>> clients, the
> >>>> >> building is full of
> >>>> >> >> bugs.
> >>>> >> >> They say that someone
> comes regularly to
> >>>> spray, but
> >>>> >> bugs were found even
> >>>> >> >> in
> >>>> >> >> my room, and I am a very
> clean person.
> >>>> (read as, do
> >>>> >> not leave food in
> >>>> >> >> uncealed containers or
> dishes with food
> >>>> still on
> >>>> >> them etc.)
> >>>> >> >> *Clients are unable to
> have microwaves or
> >>>> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
> >>>> >> >> and
> >>>> >> >> so are reduced to coolers
> full of ice or
> >>>> nothing at
> >>>> >> all except cafeteria
> >>>> >> >> food.  There are
> microwaves that
> >>>> physically
> >>>> >> exist, but they do not work
> >>>> >> >> very
> >>>> >> >> well.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Now I can say that there
> are other things
> >>>> I could
> >>>> >> talk about, but they
> >>>> >> >> probably come down to
> personal preference
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> really are just normal
> >>>> >> >> inconveniences that one
> would encounter on
> >>>> any
> >>>> >> college dorm, except they
> >>>> >> >> are
> >>>> >> >> exaggerated because of
> the fact that
> >>>> everything is
> >>>> >> scaled down hugely.
> >>>> >> >> So
> >>>> >> >> while, for example, on
> most college
> >>>> campuses, you
> >>>> >> could go to a dining
> >>>> >> >> hall
> >>>> >> >> at almost any time of
> day, if you do not
> >>>> come to
> >>>> >> meals at the times
> >>>> >> >> specified, you don't eat
> meals.  I am
> >>>> sure
> >>>> >> that anyone can argue that
> >>>> >> >> when
> >>>> >> >> in school, you have to
> work with a
> >>>> particular
> >>>> >> schedule, and while this is
> >>>> >> >> true to some extent, I do
> take issue with
> >>>> the fact
> >>>> >> that we can't even
> >>>> >> >> have
> >>>> >> >> microwaves or
> refrigerators in our rooms
> >>>> so that we
> >>>> >> may maintain the
> >>>> >> >> schedules that are most
> comfortable for
> >>>> us.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> The last thing I mention
> is a large thing
> >>>> and may
> >>>> >> not affect anyone, but
> >>>> >> >> I
> >>>> >> >> feel I must mention it,
> because if I did
> >>>> not, I
> >>>> >> would be doing a great
> >>>> >> >> disservice to anyone
> considering attending
> >>>> this
> >>>> >> center.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Two weeks ago this
> Friday, I was groped by
> >>>> an
> >>>> >> authority figure.  He was
> >>>> >> >> picking me up from the
> airport, and I was
> >>>> >> approaching the baggage claim
> >>>> >> >> with
> >>>> >> >> a female passenger from
> my flight.  This
> >>>> >> authority figure approached me
> >>>> >> >> without announcing
> himself, put his arm
> >>>> around my
> >>>> >> waist, hugged me to
> >>>> >> >> himself in a tight,
> possessive manner, and
> >>>> told the
> >>>> >> female passenger who
> >>>> >> >> had
> >>>> >> >> offered to walk with me
> that he "had it
> >>>> under
> >>>> >> control from there, but
> >>>> >> >> thanks."  After
> which, he looked down at
> >>>> me
> >>>> >> and said, "How was your trip,
> >>>> >> >> Punkin?  We've
> missed you!  We're so
> >>>> glad
> >>>> >> you're home!"
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> This man did not announce
> himself to me in
> >>>> the
> >>>> >> beginning, should have
> >>>> >> >> been
> >>>> >> >> treating me
> professionally, is old enough
> >>>> to be my
> >>>> >> father, and possibly
> >>>> >> >> even
> >>>> >> >> my grandfather, has only
> interacted with
> >>>> me
> >>>> >> minimally since my arrival at
> >>>> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc
> etc etc.
> >>>> Basically,
> >>>> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
> >>>> >> >> what
> >>>> >> >> one would call
> professional or even
> >>>> acceptable
> >>>> >> regardless of setting.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I cannot tell you whether
> to attend this
> >>>> center;
> >>>> >> only you can decide that
> >>>> >> >> for yourself.  What
> I can tell you is
> >>>> that the
> >>>> >> man who did this to me was
> >>>> >> >> reported by me, and, I
> have discovered,
> >>>> has been
> >>>> >> reported multiple times
> >>>> >> >> by
> >>>> >> >> other females that he has
> violated in one
> >>>> way or
> >>>> >> another, and still holds
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> a
> >>>> >> >> job here.  I believe
> there is something
> >>>> big
> >>>> >> going on here that I am
> >>>> >> >> unaware
> >>>> >> >> of, and am only glad to
> be leaving.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I have met some truly
> wonderful people
> >>>> here, but
> >>>> >> regardless of that, I
> >>>> >> >> could
> >>>> >> >> never suggest that
> someone attend here.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I hope this helps you
> make your
> >>>> decision.  If
> >>>> >> it does not, please know
> >>>> >> >> that
> >>>> >> >> I wish you all the best.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
> >>>> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> >>>> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> >>>> >> >> "It doesn't matter what
> you've heard
> >>>> >> >> Impossible is not a word
> >>>> >> >> It's just a reason
> >>>> >> >> For someone not to try
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Everybody's scared to
> death
> >>>> >> >> When they decide to take
> that step
> >>>> >> >> Out on the water
> >>>> >> >> It'll be alright
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Life is so much more
> >>>> >> >> Than what your eyes are
> seeing
> >>>> >> >> You will find your way
> >>>> >> >> If you keep believing"
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> -----Original
> Message-----
> >>>> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>>> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>> >> On
> >>>> >> >> Behalf
> >>>> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
> >>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 4:49 PM
> >>>> >> >> To: National Association
> of Blind Students
> >>>> mailing
> >>>> >> list
> >>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little Rock
> >>>> Employment
> >>>> >> Training Programs
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Ian,
> >>>> >> >> I have never attended
> LWSB as a trainny,
> >>>> but I used
> >>>> >> to go there on to
> >>>> >> >> stay
> >>>> >> >> during weekends in the
> 1990s. The only
> >>>> thing I can
> >>>> >> say is that LWSB has
> >>>> >> >> made
> >>>> >> >> alot of changes last
> couple of years and I
> >>>> would
> >>>> >> think about visiting
> >>>> >> >> there
> >>>> >> >> before deciding one way
> or the other. They
> >>>> do have
> >>>> >> an option to live off
> >>>> >> >> campus and as far as I am
> aware that there
> >>>> is not a
> >>>> >> sign in and sign out
> >>>> >> >> policy  after class
> time. Now they may
> >>>> have
> >>>> >> sign in and sign out policy
> >>>> >> >> during class time to keep
> count of
> >>>> attendance,
> >>>> >> however, this is know
> >>>> >> >> different signing in and
> signing out of
> >>>> work which
> >>>> >> everyone blind and
> >>>> >> >> sighted has to do.
> >>>> >> >> The IRS program is one of
> the best
> >>>> programs there
> >>>> >> and frankly since you
> >>>> >> >> have
> >>>> >> >> to be excepted for a job
> at one of the IRS
> >>>> offices,
> >>>> >> it is a guarantied
> >>>> >> >> employment after
> completing the program
> >>>> and they
> >>>> >> start at 45,000 or more.
> >>>> >> >> The food was not the
> greatest, however, as
> >>>> I said
> >>>> >> above LWSB now known as
> >>>> >> >> World Services for the
> Blind has made alot
> >>>> of
> >>>> >> changes under the new
> >>>> >> >> director
> >>>> >> >> and frankly I can not
> tell you how the
> >>>> food is now.
> >>>> >> As I said earlier, I
> >>>> >> >> would make a visit there
> before making any
> >>>> kind of
> >>>> >> decision.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Anmol
> >>>> >> >> I seldom think about my
> limitations, and
> >>>> they never
> >>>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >>>> >> >> there is just a touch of
> yearning at
> >>>> times; but it
> >>>> >> is vague, like a
> >>>> >> >> breeze
> >>>> >> >> among flowers.
> >>>> >> >> Hellen Keller
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian
> Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault
> <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >>>> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little Rock
> >>>> Employment
> >>>> >> Training Programs
> >>>> >> >>> To: "National
> Association of Blind
> >>>> Students"
> >>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >> >>> Date: Monday, July
> 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
> >>>> >> >>> Hi
> >>>> >> >>> I’m wondering if
> any of you have
> >>>> attended
> >>>> >> LWSB for one of their
> >>>> >> >>> employment training
> programs, or LWSB
> >>>> in
> >>>> >> general?
> >>>> >> >>> I’m looking into
> one of the IRS
> >>>> programs, and
> >>>> >> was reading the manual,
> >>>> >> >>> and it seems like a
> very strict and
> >>>> structured
> >>>> >> environment, even
> >>>> >> >>> though most of the
> participants are
> >>>> adults. For
> >>>> >> instance, you have to
> >>>> >> >>> sign out if you want
> to go somewhere
> >>>> and things
> >>>> >> like that. Have any of
> >>>> >> >>> you attended LWSB?
> I’d love to hear
> >>>> what your
> >>>> >> experiences were. Since
> >>>> >> >>> I’ve been to
> college, it sounds like
> >>>> it’s
> >>>> >> not as independent of an
> >>>> >> >>> environment.
> >>>> >> >>> Ian
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >>
> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> >> >>
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