[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get aworkingcomputerfor college

Arielle Silverman arielle71 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 23:47:07 UTC 2012 

Beth, Can you apply for a Pell grant? I don't think you need rehab to do this.
As for the "proficiency" claims, doesn't someone in rehab understand
that you can become more proficient at a technology through practice
and training? Proficiency isn't something like blonde hair you either
have or don't have when you're born; it's something you can easily
build up on.
Since the Mac is accessible out of the box, could you possibly go to a
library, or back to CCB, or somewhere else where there is a public
Mac, and teach yourself the basics of VoiceOver using the on-screen
tutorials?
Arielle

On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Julie won't help.  They won't get me a Mac because of
> proficiency.  They don't realize it's maintenance that's keeping
> me from wanting a PC so much.
> Beth
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
> aworkingcomputerfor college
>
> Beth, What were their reasons for not getting you a mac? Mabie
> you should
> talk to July Deeden. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> workingcomputerfor college
>
>
>
>  On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>  I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
> if I
>  sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
> what
>  rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
> apply to
>  schools just like anyone else?
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
> because I'm
>  "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few keystrokes
> as "no
>  proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do at this point
> because I
>  want to succeed in college and thi stupid work assessment
> training, but
>  whaut they did to me, I don't know whether it should be pointed
> out or
>  avenged.
>  Beth
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>  workingcomputerfor college
>
>  Hello,
>  If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
> should
>  just
>  go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
> this in
>  order
>  to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by a
>  professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
> that
>  assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
> the
>  adaptive
>  technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
> supervisor
>  know
>  that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
> college and
>  if
>  they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
> computer.
>  Because
>  you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
> failure, you
>  really
>  need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
> support
>  in
>  the world.
>  http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>  This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
> you want
>  in
>  college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
> have a
>  Mac.
>  First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
> for you.
>  They
>  will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un moving
> and
>  firm
>  that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
> have,
>  even
>  though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence is
> the key
>  and
>  independence is the way.
>  Thanks,
>
>  Brandon Keith Biggs
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Beth
>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> working
>  computerfor college
>
>  Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>  but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>  because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>  don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
> apps
>  fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational assessment
>  and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>  work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group and
>  counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>  didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be the
>  top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and their
>  plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>  adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>  the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal people
>  go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>  Thanks,
>  Beth
>
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