[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to getaworkingcomputerfor college

Beth thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Sat Jul 21 01:54:34 UTC 2012


I could, and that's another idea.  I'd go to the library and play 
with a Mac and do the on screen thingies with Voiceover.  I might 
talk to Metro's access office sometime Monday.  I think I'll do 
all that you suggest, and I'll probably have to do it while 
working.  But the thing is that Rehab would rather tesft my 
employability skills becauase they're just interested in getting 
money out of me.  I don't believe they want to see me succeed in 
the employment I dream about.  They don't think I can handle it 
because of the bipolar, and if it weren't for mental issues, I'd 
have the Mac in hand and I'd be writing this email on one.  I'd 
probablyget one-to-one training.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
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Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:47:07 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to 
getaworkingcomputerfor college

Beth, Can you apply for a Pell grant? I don't think you need 
rehab to do this.
As for the "proficiency" claims, doesn't someone in rehab 
understand
that you can become more proficient at a technology through 
practice
and training? Proficiency isn't something like blonde hair you 
either
have or don't have when you're born; it's something you can 
easily
build up on.
Since the Mac is accessible out of the box, could you possibly go 
to a
library, or back to CCB, or somewhere else where there is a 
public
Mac, and teach yourself the basics of VoiceOver using the 
on-screen
tutorials?
Arielle

On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
 Julie won't help.  They won't get me a Mac because of
 proficiency.  They don't realize it's maintenance that's keeping
 me from wanting a PC so much.
 Beth

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
 aworkingcomputerfor college

 Beth, What were their reasons for not getting you a mac? Mabie
 you should
 talk to July Deeden. RJ
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
 workingcomputerfor college



  On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
  I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
 if I
  sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
 what
  rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
 apply to
  schools just like anyone else?

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
 because I'm
  "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few keystrokes
 as "no
  proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do at this point
 because I
  want to succeed in college and thi stupid work assessment
 training, but
  whaut they did to me, I don't know whether it should be pointed
 out or
  avenged.
  Beth

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
  workingcomputerfor college

  Hello,
  If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
 should
  just
  go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
 this in
  order
  to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by 
a
  professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
 that
  assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
 the
  adaptive
  technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
 supervisor
  know
  that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
 college and
  if
  they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
 computer.
  Because
  you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
 failure, you
  really
  need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
 support
  in
  the world.
  http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
  This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
 you want
  in
  college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
 have a
  Mac.
  First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
 for you.
  They
  will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un 
moving
 and
  firm
  that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
 have,
  even
  though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence 
is
 the key
  and
  independence is the way.
  Thanks,

  Brandon Keith Biggs
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Beth
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
 working
  computerfor college

  Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
  but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
  because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
  don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
 apps
  fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational 
assessment
  and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
  work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group 
and
  counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
  didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be 
the
  top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and 
their
  plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
  adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
  the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal 
people
  go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
  Thanks,
  Beth

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