[nabs-l] meeting results and what to dotogetaworkingcomputerfor college

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Jul 21 04:38:14 UTC 2012 

Sounds to me like you need Blio!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Brandon,
> 	I have difficulties with papers and research and stuff.
> Research and papers are harder for me to do because books
> are out off the question and articles like on JSTOR and
> other databases are in PDF format and can't be downloaded
> without a steep price.  Whuaft in the world!  That's all
> that got on my nerves in college.
> Beth
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:40:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to
> dotogetaworkingcomputerfor college
>
> Hello,
> That's exactly the goal of rehab. To get you employed. Even if
> it's at a
> sheltered workshop. If you work for 6 months, they will close
> your case.
> Then they get refunded 75% of your cost from the federal
> government.
> That's why you have to be on top of everything, or they will push
> you
> around.
> May I ask, what difficulties were you having before in college?
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:54 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>
> I could, and that's another idea.  I'd go to the library and play
> with a Mac and do the on screen thingies with Voiceover.  I might
> talk to Metro's access office sometime Monday.  I think I'll do
> all that you suggest, and I'll probably have to do it while
> working.  But the thing is that Rehab would rather tesft my
> employability skills becauase they're just interested in getting
> money out of me.  I don't believe they want to see me succeed in
> the employment I dream about.  They don't think I can handle it
> because of the bipolar, and if it weren't for mental issues, I'd
> have the Mac in hand and I'd be writing this email on one.  I'd
> probablyget one-to-one training.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:47:07 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>
> Beth, Can you apply for a Pell grant? I don't think you need
> rehab to do this.
> As for the "proficiency" claims, doesn't someone in rehab
> understand
> that you can become more proficient at a technology through
> practice
> and training? Proficiency isn't something like blonde hair you
> either
> have or don't have when you're born; it's something you can
> easily
> build up on.
> Since the Mac is accessible out of the box, could you possibly go
> to a
> library, or back to CCB, or somewhere else where there is a
> public
> Mac, and teach yourself the basics of VoiceOver using the
> on-screen
> tutorials?
> Arielle
>
> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Julie won't help.  They won't get me a Mac because of
> proficiency.  They don't realize it's maintenance that's keeping
> me from wanting a PC so much.
> Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:33 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
> aworkingcomputerfor college
>
> Beth, What were their reasons for not getting you a mac? Mabie
> you should
> talk to July Deeden. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> workingcomputerfor college
>
>
>
>   On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>   I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
> if I
>   sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
> what
>   rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
> apply to
>   schools just like anyone else?
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>   On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>   Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
> because I'm
>   "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few keystrokes
> as "no
>   proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do at this point
> because I
>   want to succeed in college and thi stupid work assessment
> training, but
>   whaut they did to me, I don't know whether it should be pointed
> out or
>   avenged.
>   Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>   workingcomputerfor college
>
>   Hello,
>   If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
> should
>   just
>   go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
> this in
>   order
>   to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
> a
>   professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
> that
>   assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
> the
>   adaptive
>   technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
> supervisor
>   know
>   that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
> college and
>   if
>   they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
> computer.
>   Because
>   you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
> failure, you
>   really
>   need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
> support
>   in
>   the world.
>   http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>   This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
> you want
>   in
>   college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
> have a
>   Mac.
>   First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
> for you.
>   They
>   will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
> moving
> and
>   firm
>   that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
> have,
>   even
>   though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
> is
> the key
>   and
>   independence is the way.
>   Thanks,
>
>   Brandon Keith Biggs
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Beth
>   Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>   To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> working
>   computerfor college
>
>   Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>   but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>   because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>   don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
> apps
>   fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
> assessment
>   and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>   work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
> and
>   counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>   didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
> the
>   top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
> their
>   plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>   adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>   the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
> people
>   go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>   Thanks,
>   Beth
>
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