[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a working computerfor college

Tue Jul 24 11:21:04 UTC 2012

What else did you mean to say, Carly? The full message isn't here.
Well, either that or Gmail's cutting it short.

On 7/24/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> Good morning, Desiree,
>
> I know at my school and probably at others as well, they offer free
> tutoring in all the school's subjects which can make all the
> difference if you are floundering. So you need not pay for tutoring.
> Ask the administration about the tutoring center.strong point. I know
> for example that my
>>math skills are extremely weak. When I was in elementary school, the
>>teachers didn't really know how to show certain concepts to me. I did
>>long division, but whenever I would use my Brailler, students would
>>tell me I was distracting them and making it so they couldn't learn.
>>Then they would throw erasers and rubber bands and a bunch of other
>>stuff at me. The teachers never did anything because they were just as
>>uncomfortable with my blindness as the students were. Anyway, back in
>>those days it was considered cheating to use a calculator, but I used
>>to do it anyway, just so I could pass. In my family, even getting a c
>>was considered a failure. Now, I've heard that things have changed
>>nowadays, and it's pretty much acceptable to use a calculator, but I
>>would neverfeel comfortable doing it. I would feel like I was doing
>>something wrong, and I think you can get kicked out of college for
>>cheating.
>>I say all this because now I'm at a serious disadvantage when it comes
>>to math. I need a calculator to do a lot of basic things. I can't even
>>calculate a tip for a cab or restaurant or whatever in my head. That's
>>just one of the reasons I'm not currently a student. I don't want to
>>fail or be kicked out of college for cheating.
>>The other reason I bring all this up is because, as I said, some
>>people are just weak in certain areas. tutoring may help in the short
>>term, but I think that these core curriculum skills, like reading or
>>math, are something that you're either good at or you're not. You
>>might be able to get some training wheels, and wobble your way through
>>the classes, but will it really increase your understanding to
>>noticeable proportions? I think not. It will get you through, and
>>maybe that's all that matters in the end, but due to my experiences
>>I'm really not sure.
>>I wouldn't discourage anyone from receiving tutoring, though. If that
>>makes the difference between a pass and a fail, then that's all you
>>need. But for me personally, I know there would be a lot of shame
>>surrounding it. I wouldn't feel right about paying someone an
>>astronomical (or minimal, if that's the case) fee just for them to go
>>running off and whisper about that stupid blind girl they had to help.
>>We've all heard about the dreaded stereotypes associated with
>>blindness. So wouldn't a person, a young person, and we all know how
>>ignorant certain people in this generation are, automatically put two
>>and two together, no matter how wrongly, and say hmmm, are all blind
>>people this stupid?
>>
>>On 7/23/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Tyler,
>> > good post. I couldn't have said it better. You have to justify and Beth
>> > hasn't articulated a good justification. Macs get viruses too. In my
>> > state,
>> >
>> > they tend to buy windows computers. I don't know why the preference,
>> > but
>> > I've never heard of them going the apple route.
>> > So I think it will be hard to get one.
>> > Ashley
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Littlefield, Tyler
>> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:32 AM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a working
>> > computerfor college
>> >
>> > Can I ask why you're pushing for a mac? pointing them to apple
>> > propiganda so you can get it doesn't work. If you know you want it
>> > because it does something better than the pc, go for it. Otherwise,
>> > just
>> > get a pc.
>> > On 7/19/2012 11:21 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you should
>> >> just go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>> >> this
>> >> in order to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>> >> a
>> >>
>> >> professional blind technology person and it's your right to get that
>> >> assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with the
>> >> adaptive technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>> >> supervisor know that your rehab counselor is keeping you from
>> >> succeeding
>> >> in college and if they want you to pass your classes, you have got to
>> >> have
>> >>
>> >> a computer. Because you aren't someone with time to worry about a
>> >> technology failure, you really need an apple computer that will be
>> >> dependable and has the best support in the world.
>> >> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>> >> This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience you
>> >> want
>> >> in college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to have
>> >> a
>> >>
>> >> Mac.
>> >> First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best for you.
>> >> They will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un moving
>> >> and
>> >>
>> >> firm that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>> >> have,
>> >>
>> >> even though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence is
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >> key and independence is the way.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Beth
>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>> >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a working
>> >> computerfor college
>> >>
>> >> Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>> >> but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>> >> because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>> >> don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party apps
>> >> fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational assessment
>> >> and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>> >> work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group and
>> >> counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>> >> didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be the
>> >> top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and their
>> >> plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>> >> adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>> >> the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal people
>> >> go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Beth
>> >>
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