[nabs-l] why I want a mac

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Tue Jul 24 16:27:16 UTC 2012


I'm no councilor, but I've figured out, that justification is emportant. If 
Beth wants a Mac so bad, she needs to stop wining, and work toward getting 
one herself! My father taught me from the time I was born the value of work! 
That's why I am living in my own home, which I helped my parents build along 
with my sister! How do you think Gernigan and Maurer got to where theywere? 
I'm sorry, but enough is enough! You got training from CCB, use it! RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] why I want a mac


> Ashly,
> I don't want to be mean, but coming out and saying what needs to be said 
> should be good. Granted I may as well be talking to a wall at this point, 
> since she is stuck on the mac and the reasons for it keep changing, but 
> whatever.
>
> As for parents being required to help blind people, they already do. My 
> brother got his car for $800 or so. Maybe he had help, I honestly have no 
> clue. But part of the money he put in. Unless parents are dropping 10+k on 
> a car, justifying "I need a braille note because joe got a car," doesn't 
> quite work. Your braille note costed at least 5 times more than a reliable 
> car did, not to mention your pc.
> On 7/24/2012 9:06 AM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>> Tyler,
>> While I agree Beth needs to comprimise, I also think perhaps we should be 
>> supportive.
>> A lot of people struggle getting what they need through rehab. I said 
>> pretty much the same thing as you, without being blunt.
>> I wonder, has anyone had rehab purchase a mac? I still have over 50 
>> messages to read on the rehab thread,
>> but I don't think any nabster has come forward and said rehab got them a 
>> mac.
>> I say this  to point out that many people like macs for various reasons, 
>> but rehab did
>> not get them one.
>>
>> Anyway, Beth, I'd suggest you justify that and if you cannot, then get a 
>> pc through them.
>> At this point, it sounds like you'd be lucky for them to pay for college 
>> a third time for you.
>> I'd be thankful if they paid for college and get a  mac through other 
>> means.
>>
>> You know all, as a side note this is why parents IMO should get equipment 
>> for students. Some cannot afford it I know. But it seems to me parents 
>> should buy more equipment for blind children rather than relying on the 
>> government for it!  Its part of being a supportive parent. Parents get 
>> sighted kids cars, car insurance, many visual entertainment games 
>> including the wii and playstation, computers, computer accessories, and 
>> more. Yet blind children do not get computers and the software to run 
>> them. Something is wrong with this picture. BTW, my parents bought my pc, 
>> but not my braille note. So they did share some of the cost of buying 
>> equipment and sending me to school which is part of rasing a kid.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Littlefield, Tyler
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:36 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] why I want a mac
>>
>> It really sounds like you're just trying to jump on the mac band waggon.
>> Great, "universal" accessibility. Now call apple and ask a voiceover
>> question. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It sounds like
>> you're changing your mind as to why you want it, which is fine I guess,
>> but you really need to figure out why it is you need a mac. You get good
>> tech support from a lot of companies that sell pcs too, so that's out as
>> well.
>>
>> Basically here's what this comes down to.
>> You can keep complaining about dvr and not getting a mac. You've said
>> you failed college twice already, and they won't put you through it
>> again. At this point, you need to accept whatever you can get,
>> compromize and work with them. Going in requesting a $1500 system and
>> holding to it when they already have issues about putting you through
>> school for the third time isn't going to get you anywhere. It's all your
>> choice, just wanted to throw all that out there.
>> On 7/24/2012 3:13 AM, Beth wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>> To explain why I would like a Mac is simple: universal accessibility 
>>> integrated into the product.  Also, I really want something with good 
>>> tech support.  The tech support people from India sometimes don't speak 
>>> good English, and given the demographics of india and its people, 
>>> blindness is not thought to be a good thing in India.  So if I said, 
>>> "Whuat do I do because JAWs isn't working?"  They'll have no answer for 
>>> me. That's all I can say.  There are other reasons I want a mac, and I 
>>> want to be able to use one so bad.
>>> Beth
>>>
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