[nabs-l] meeting results and what to dotogetaworkingcomputerfor college

[Brandon Keith Biggs]

Uh, Being an Opera singer kind of requires a college education now. At least 
8 years... Either that or you need to spend all the money out of your pocket 
for private lessons and trips over to Italy and Germany.
Have you considered being an A&R person? Working in music business  is 
something the blind community needs and it's very rewarding I hear. You get 
to hobnob with the best and still go sit in a bar without people falling all 
over you.
It's not as grueling as normal business either, because the only numbers you 
need to deal with are really familiar! $10 times 3 million, song writer gets 
0.75 scents every $10.
How can we get this musician out in the public? Hm...

Or if you like being in charge of musicians, telling them what to do and 
being the one who wants to watch a group gain fame because of you, being a 
manager is the way to go. You get paid to go to a concert where the tickets 
are $130 in the back row...
I'm sure in some cases the manager is the guy who gets the crowd worked up, 
but it doesn't have to be that way.

There are two different degrees that you could take, either music business 
or marketing. If you had the marketing, you may want to take some classes 
from the music department and get a minor or second major in general music.
If I didn't love singing so much, I probably would be an A&R person. They 
are the ones who run the industry that's not classical or Jazz.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- 
From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:56 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to dotogetaworkingcomputerfor 
college

Hi Joshua,
I thought of that, but there's nothing in the music field that I would
really want to do. I certainly would not want to be a music teacher.
For one thing, with the experiences I've had with teachers, and seeing
how much teachers have to bend over backwards to meet the government's
standards and do nothing more or less, I would never feel right in
that field. I thought about being a deejay, but I wouldn't feel
comfortable having to rotate the same top 40. Plus, I'm not quick with
witty responses and things as radio personalities have to be to keep
things interesting. If you didn't have to be totally limited to
playing a specific set of songs no matter what station you worked at,
and if you didn't have to make this ridiculous schedule where you only
can talk for 20 seconds before a commercial break and have to make
your playlists a day in advance, I would think about it. I'm one of
those people who has a huge appreciation for music, and an equally
large collection spanning all different genres. Limiting myself that
way would be suffocating. I do know a bit about working in a radio
station. When I was 16, I actually worked at one of those reading
services for the blind. My responsibility was to make sure the
controls were operating properly, switch the mics over when someone
was reading, and to play tapes with tv guides and special features and
things. When I had the floor, so to speak, I had anywhere from 20-30
seconds to announce what would be coming next before commercials would
be automatically broadcast. I found that I always cut it too close or
cut off the beginning of the first commercial altogether because, as I
said, I'm not good at thinking fast.
Other than being a musician, which IMO doesn't require a college
education, though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have one for that
purpose either, I can't think of any music-related professions. I
appreciate the suggestion, though.

On 7/24/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> Hi, Desiree.
> You told me in an E-mail, that you sang in choirs during your school
> years, and you also play the guitar.
> Why not major in music?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 7/24/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Desiree,
>> I don't want to say anything about your particular case because as you
>> said wwe don't know you and I'm sure you've been through a lot. But
>> please don't keep this idea  of college being some sort of zoo filled
>> with wild violent students. I guess there are many colleges in many
>> places, but most universities aren't like that and actually provide
>> you with enough resources to do well, even if you didn't receive the
>> best high school education. If you pick a major that's not related to
>> math you really won't have much trouble, because believe it or not you
>> won't be expected to know much about math when taking whatever low
>> level cclass that they require everyone to take.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
>>> don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
>>> easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
>>> so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
>>> privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
>>> to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
>>> gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
>>> specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
>>> They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
>>> their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
>>> that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
>>> kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
>>> immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
>>> college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
>>> stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
>>> old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
>>> parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
>>> saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
>>> sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
>>> didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
>>> live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
>>> One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
>>> know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
>>> treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
>>> to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
>>> them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
>>> I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
>>> As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
>>> actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
>>> the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
>>> indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
>>> know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
>>> that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
>>> college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
>>> this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
>>> the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
>>> well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
>>> of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
>>> want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
>>>
>>> On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Beth,
>>>> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the
>>>> college
>>>> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to
>>>> tell
>>>> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Beth
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
>>>> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
>>>> to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
>>>> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
>>>> of thing?
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
>>>> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
>>>> loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
>>>> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
>>>> things
>>>> back.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
>>>> aworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
>>>> But ...
>>>> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
>>>> they pay
>>>> for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
>>>> financial reasons.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>  I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
>>>> if I
>>>>  sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
>>>> what
>>>>  rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
>>>> apply to
>>>>  schools just like anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>> because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
>>>> keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
>>>> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
>>>> stupid
>>>> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
>>>> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
>>>>  Beth
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>  Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>> workingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>>  Hello,
>>>>  If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
>>>> should just
>>>>  go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>>>> this in order
>>>>  to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>>>> a
>>>>  professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
>>>> that
>>>>  assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
>>>> the adaptive
>>>>  technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>>>> supervisor know
>>>>  that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
>>>> college and if
>>>>  they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
>>>> computer. Because
>>>>  you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
>>>> failure, you really
>>>>  need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
>>>> support in
>>>>  the world.
>>>>  http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>>>>  This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
>>>> you want in
>>>>  college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
>>>> have a Mac.
>>>>  First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
>>>> for you. They
>>>>  will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
>>>> moving
>>>> and firm
>>>>  that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>>>> have, even
>>>>  though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
>>>> is
>>>> the key and
>>>>  independence is the way.
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>  Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: Beth
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>>>>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>> working
>>>>  computerfor college
>>>>
>>>>  Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>>>>  but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>  because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>>>>  don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
>>>> apps
>>>>  fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
>>>> assessment
>>>>  and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>>>>  work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
>>>> and
>>>>  counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>>>>  didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
>>>> the
>>>>  top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
>>>> their
>>>>  plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>>>>  adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>>>>  the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
>>>> people
>>>>  go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  Beth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Follow me on Twitter @dandrews920
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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