[nabs-l] financial aid

Thu Jul 26 03:34:40 UTC 2012

Sophie,

While I respect one's decision not to use loans based on personal religious 
beliefs, what got me annoyed was Beth called loans
crap.
She said
"Loans aren't worth crap, and
government loans aren't worth crap either.  I say this because
some students, even Muslim students, can't pay the loans back
because interesft is considered Riba, or evil.  "

I know people of all religions including muslims who use loans.
Student loans are a means of paying for school and I can think of at least 
three blind people
who did this for grad school as its hard to get rehab to pay for grad 
school.
So I don't believe its fair to call loans crap just because you dislike them 
based on religious beliefs. Apparently, other muslims interpret their 
religion different; I do know muslims who take out student loans. That's all 
I'll say before a religion discussion begins.

I'm not sure if pell grants are the same as loans, but this might be an 
option as well if rehab doesn't help.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sophie Trist
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:10 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid

Joshua, people can harbor whatever religious beliefs they want.
Just because they're not ours doesn't mean we can bash them. If
Beth's religion prevents her from using loans, she'll just have
to be resourceful and find another way to solve her problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:12:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid

You know, that some go to extremes.
This isn't the religion discussion list, but I'm tired of people
using
that as an excuse.
Sounds like people using religion to not take their child to the
doctor.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/25/12, josh gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
Oh come on!!! Religion doesn't have a thing to do with it! That
doesn't mean loans are bad!! Write me offlist.

On 7/25/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, ... ok, someone made a point that we owe a trillion
dollars
in student loan debt, including the federal government loans.
Some religions, such as Islam, prohibit interesft, which loans
accrue.  I know a blind Muslim student or two going to college
who can't do loans, so he has to rely heavily on Rehab to pay
for
it.  The only reason I think Rehab's paying for it is because
he's on SSI, holds a Gree Card, is not a citizen of the U.S.,
and
is/was until recently on refugee status in Somalia.
Thanks.
Beth

  ----- Original Message -----
From: josh gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:31:56 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid

Uh, Beth, what does that have to do with absolutely anything?

On 7/25/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
  This message regards financial aid.  Wasif, you said FAFSA
won't
  pay if my GPA is below    2.0.  Well, I have SSI and can't pay
  for school even with loans.  Loans aren't worth crap, and
  government loans aren't worth crap either.  I say this because
  some students, even Muslim students, can't pay the loans back
  because interesft is considered Riba, or evil.  You can't
borrow
  money from banks due to religious reasons, and that's the truth
  for some people.
  Beth

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