[nabs-l] financial aid

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Thu Jul 26 04:57:35 UTC 2012


Pell Grants are different from loans.
Loans, you have to pay back.
Pell Grants you don't.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/25/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Sophie,
>
> While I respect one's decision not to use loans based on personal religious
>
> beliefs, what got me annoyed was Beth called loans
> crap.
> She said
> "Loans aren't worth crap, and
> government loans aren't worth crap either.  I say this because
> some students, even Muslim students, can't pay the loans back
> because interesft is considered Riba, or evil.  "
>
> I know people of all religions including muslims who use loans.
> Student loans are a means of paying for school and I can think of at least
> three blind people
> who did this for grad school as its hard to get rehab to pay for grad
> school.
> So I don't believe its fair to call loans crap just because you dislike them
>
> based on religious beliefs. Apparently, other muslims interpret their
> religion different; I do know muslims who take out student loans. That's all
>
> I'll say before a religion discussion begins.
>
> I'm not sure if pell grants are the same as loans, but this might be an
> option as well if rehab doesn't help.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sophie Trist
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:10 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid
>
> Joshua, people can harbor whatever religious beliefs they want.
> Just because they're not ours doesn't mean we can bash them. If
> Beth's religion prevents her from using loans, she'll just have
> to be resourceful and find another way to solve her problem.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:12:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid
>
> You know, that some go to extremes.
> This isn't the religion discussion list, but I'm tired of people
> using
> that as an excuse.
> Sounds like people using religion to not take their child to the
> doctor.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 7/25/12, josh gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh come on!!! Religion doesn't have a thing to do with it! That
> doesn't mean loans are bad!! Write me offlist.
>
> On 7/25/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, ... ok, someone made a point that we owe a trillion
> dollars
> in student loan debt, including the federal government loans.
> Some religions, such as Islam, prohibit interesft, which loans
> accrue.  I know a blind Muslim student or two going to college
> who can't do loans, so he has to rely heavily on Rehab to pay
> for
> it.  The only reason I think Rehab's paying for it is because
> he's on SSI, holds a Gree Card, is not a citizen of the U.S.,
> and
> is/was until recently on refugee status in Somalia.
> Thanks.
> Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: josh gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:31:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] financial aid
>
> Uh, Beth, what does that have to do with absolutely anything?
>
> On 7/25/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>   This message regards financial aid.  Wasif, you said FAFSA
> won't
>   pay if my GPA is below    2.0.  Well, I have SSI and can't pay
>   for school even with loans.  Loans aren't worth crap, and
>   government loans aren't worth crap either.  I say this because
>   some students, even Muslim students, can't pay the loans back
>   because interesft is considered Riba, or evil.  You can't
> borrow
>   money from banks due to religious reasons, and that's the truth
>   for some people.
>   Beth
>
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