[nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sun Jun 10 20:19:01 UTC 2012


I believe if a disabled person is working as hard as a nondisabled
person, they should get the same amount of money!
That's fair!
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/10/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
> Minimum wage is not that much. I think it's only fair that all workers get
> minimum wage. If its not a law for all, people may exploit disabled
> workers.g
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> And, the loopholes have got to go!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/10/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Brandon makes a good point. I believe media coverage and exposing the
>>> fact
>>> that good will pays sub minimum wage will help more than a boycott.
>>> Like Brandon, I have not shopped at Good will either nor do I plan to.
>>>
>>> Also, I don't understand why we picked on Good will when other large
>>> nonprofits do it.
>>> Second, we do not generally speak for all people with disabilities; most
>>> press releases say "largest consumer organization of the blind" or
>>> something
>>>
>>> like it, not people with disabilities.
>>> Our focus is usually on blind people.
>>> Third, I don't believe all Good will locations pay sub minimum wage.
>>> Where
>>> is the evidence?
>>> I noticed the press release gave no facts, just called for a boycott.
>>>
>>> Finally, if they do adopt minimum wage, this doesn't make sub minimum
>>> wage
>>> go away.
>>> I question why all people with disabilities should be paid minimum wage.
>>> Should people who are very cognitively delayed who have no expenses and
>>> are
>>>
>>> cared for in group homes be paid minimum wage? Something to think about.
>>> Should they be paid that much when they cannot see the paycheck and
>>> handle
>>> it like adults? No, they should not be paid $1, but I wonder if they
>>> really
>>>
>>> need minimum wage for work that is not comperable to that of other
>>> workers.
>>>
>>> I have mixed feelings on this issue. Some of you say you are surprised we
>>> still have sub minimum wage for disabled workers. Well, I have news for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> There are jobs exempt from minimum wage standards. Farm workers, even the
>>> legal workers, are one example. Read some books, and you'll see the
>>> exemptions and loopholes.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sophie Trist
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:19 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> Brandon, I see what you mean at people shopping at Goodwill. But
>>> I have sold old clothes and stuff to Goodwill as well. I think
>>> they mean a boycott in the buying and selling senses.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:42:01 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I have not shopped at good will in many years. I don't know very
>>> many people
>>> who shop at Good Will, so I'm not sure if a Boycott alone will do
>>> the trick.
>>> Maybe if everyone contacted their newspapers and TV stations
>>> telling them of
>>> the boycott and why there is a boycott. Many people find that
>>> working
>>> without minimum wage is insane. But just to hammer the point
>>> home, point out
>>> that this under minimum wage is a way for the United States to
>>> keep a
>>> handhold on under minimum wage so there is some way for under
>>> minimum wage
>>> to be instituted back in for everyone else. The precedent is
>>> there, so
>>> everyone needs to overturn this law so no one anywhere in the
>>> United States
>>> can ever be paid under minimum wage  again.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Humberto Avila
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:10 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> Hello, I agree with this as well. I hope that by doing the
>>> boycott to this
>>> company, in the national / universal spectrum, we are able to put
>>> pressure
>>> on employers, and on other companies and corporations, as well as
>>> organizations who pay subminimum wages. We could eventually end
>>> up
>>> spreading the word of stopping companies to pay subminimum wages
>>> and they
>>> could even see that people with disabilities and including blind
>>> people are
>>> capable of being paid like the sighted population. If potential
>>> employers
>>> see this change happening, those employers will have a light bulb
>>> lit up,
>>> and will be able to see that blind people are competent, then
>>> will hire
>>> them. Then we can make more change. I see this happening, from my
>>> personal
>>> opinion. Let's hope that the NFB does this.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:57 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>> I agree with the points you've made. If Goodwill was boycotted
>>> universally, it would put more pressure on them to pay their
>>> disabled workers fair wages. Plus, if Goodwill developed a
>>> centralized wage policy and gave their workers fair wages, other
>>> corporations might follow their lead.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu
>>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:19:15 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> One more note: I think that local business decision-makers within
>>> Goodwill Industries would be educated/led to philosophical change
>>> simply by the fact that the corporate leaders of Goodwill
>>> Industries adopted a universal fair wage policy (if they did), so
>>> that would help with the education, too.
>>>
>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>> Class of 2012
>>> B.A. in Mathematics
>>> East Carolina University
>>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>>
>>> 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
>>> can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only thing that ever has.?
>>> 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Justin Salisbury
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:13 PM
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Goodwill Boycott
>>>
>>> Arielle, Gabe, and all:
>>>
>>> I like the point that you've made about the decentralized wage
>>> policies and rewarding good locations, but do you think that
>>> perhaps a benefit to boycotting universally would be a
>>> possibility that Goodwill Industries would create a centralized
>>> (universal) policy that all locations must pay their workers fair
>>> wages?
>>>
>>> I feel like the end result that we want is for Goodwill
>>> Industries to adopt a universal standard of paying all workers
>>> fair wages, and the approach that you all have mentioned seems to
>>> me to address the decisions in individual locations.  I do
>>> understand the point of leading local business leaders to undergo
>>> philosophical change and choose to pay their workers fair wages,
>>> but which item is the top priority: education of individuals or
>>> achievement of fair wages?   That's not a rhetorical question; I
>>> want to hear opinions on it.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>> Class of 2012
>>> B.A. in Mathematics
>>> East Carolina University
>>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>>
>>> 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
>>> can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only thing that ever has.?
>>> 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>>>
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