[nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Sun Jun 10 20:57:04 UTC 2012

Sophie,
Actually, it is  a lot. Keep in mind federal minimum wage is different than 
some states. Some states have their own minimum wages.
Minimum wage was raised a few years ago. It is now $7.25. When I was growing 
up it was 5 something.
I'd say this is a lot especially if a disabled person is also receiving SSI 
and has no living expenses.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sophie Trist
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:16 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Minimum wage is not that much. I think it's only fair that all workers get 
minimum wage. If its not a law for all, people may exploit disabled 
workers.g
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On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> 
wrote:

> And, the loopholes have got to go!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/10/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Brandon makes a good point. I believe media coverage and exposing the 
>> fact
>> that good will pays sub minimum wage will help more than a boycott.
>> Like Brandon, I have not shopped at Good will either nor do I plan to.
>>
>> Also, I don't understand why we picked on Good will when other large
>> nonprofits do it.
>> Second, we do not generally speak for all people with disabilities; most
>> press releases say "largest consumer organization of the blind" or 
>> something
>>
>> like it, not people with disabilities.
>> Our focus is usually on blind people.
>> Third, I don't believe all Good will locations pay sub minimum wage. 
>> Where
>> is the evidence?
>> I noticed the press release gave no facts, just called for a boycott.
>>
>> Finally, if they do adopt minimum wage, this doesn't make sub minimum 
>> wage
>> go away.
>> I question why all people with disabilities should be paid minimum wage.
>> Should people who are very cognitively delayed who have no expenses and 
>> are
>>
>> cared for in group homes be paid minimum wage? Something to think about.
>> Should they be paid that much when they cannot see the paycheck and 
>> handle
>> it like adults? No, they should not be paid $1, but I wonder if they 
>> really
>>
>> need minimum wage for work that is not comperable to that of other 
>> workers.
>>
>> I have mixed feelings on this issue. Some of you say you are surprised we
>> still have sub minimum wage for disabled workers. Well, I have news for 
>> you.
>>
>> There are jobs exempt from minimum wage standards. Farm workers, even the
>> legal workers, are one example. Read some books, and you'll see the
>> exemptions and loopholes.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:19 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> Brandon, I see what you mean at people shopping at Goodwill. But
>> I have sold old clothes and stuff to Goodwill as well. I think
>> they mean a boycott in the buying and selling senses.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:42:01 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> Hello,
>> I have not shopped at good will in many years. I don't know very
>> many people
>> who shop at Good Will, so I'm not sure if a Boycott alone will do
>> the trick.
>> Maybe if everyone contacted their newspapers and TV stations
>> telling them of
>> the boycott and why there is a boycott. Many people find that
>> working
>> without minimum wage is insane. But just to hammer the point
>> home, point out
>> that this under minimum wage is a way for the United States to
>> keep a
>> handhold on under minimum wage so there is some way for under
>> minimum wage
>> to be instituted back in for everyone else. The precedent is
>> there, so
>> everyone needs to overturn this law so no one anywhere in the
>> United States
>> can ever be paid under minimum wage  again.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Humberto Avila
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:10 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> Hello, I agree with this as well. I hope that by doing the
>> boycott to this
>> company, in the national / universal spectrum, we are able to put
>> pressure
>> on employers, and on other companies and corporations, as well as
>> organizations who pay subminimum wages. We could eventually end
>> up
>> spreading the word of stopping companies to pay subminimum wages
>> and they
>> could even see that people with disabilities and including blind
>> people are
>> capable of being paid like the sighted population. If potential
>> employers
>> see this change happening, those employers will have a light bulb
>> lit up,
>> and will be able to see that blind people are competent, then
>> will hire
>> them. Then we can make more change. I see this happening, from my
>> personal
>> opinion. Let's hope that the NFB does this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> Justin,
>>
>> I agree with the points you've made. If Goodwill was boycotted
>> universally, it would put more pressure on them to pay their
>> disabled workers fair wages. Plus, if Goodwill developed a
>> centralized wage policy and gave their workers fair wages, other
>> corporations might follow their lead.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu
>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:19:15 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> One more note: I think that local business decision-makers within
>> Goodwill Industries would be educated/led to philosophical change
>> simply by the fact that the corporate leaders of Goodwill
>> Industries adopted a universal fair wage policy (if they did), so
>> that would help with the education, too.
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Class of 2012
>> B.A. in Mathematics
>> East Carolina University
>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>
>> 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
>> can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only thing that ever has.?
>> 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Justin Salisbury
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:13 PM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Goodwill Boycott
>>
>> Arielle, Gabe, and all:
>>
>> I like the point that you've made about the decentralized wage
>> policies and rewarding good locations, but do you think that
>> perhaps a benefit to boycotting universally would be a
>> possibility that Goodwill Industries would create a centralized
>> (universal) policy that all locations must pay their workers fair
>> wages?
>>
>> I feel like the end result that we want is for Goodwill
>> Industries to adopt a universal standard of paying all workers
>> fair wages, and the approach that you all have mentioned seems to
>> me to address the decisions in individual locations.  I do
>> understand the point of leading local business leaders to undergo
>> philosophical change and choose to pay their workers fair wages,
>> but which item is the top priority: education of individuals or
>> achievement of fair wages?   That's not a rhetorical question; I
>> want to hear opinions on it.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Class of 2012
>> B.A. in Mathematics
>> East Carolina University
>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>
>> 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
>> can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only thing that ever has.?
>> 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>>
>>
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