[nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Mon Jun 11 02:34:24 UTC 2012

Please email me the press release about Goodwill to 
brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott


> Hi all,
> Brandon makes a good point. I believe media coverage and exposing the fact
> that good will pays sub minimum wage will help more than a boycott.
> Like Brandon, I have not shopped at Good will either nor do I plan to.
>
> Also, I don't understand why we picked on Good will when other large
> nonprofits do it.
> Second, we do not generally speak for all people with disabilities; most
> press releases say "largest consumer organization of the blind" or 
> something
> like it, not people with disabilities.
> Our focus is usually on blind people.
> Third, I don't believe all Good will locations pay sub minimum wage. Where
> is the evidence?
> I noticed the press release gave no facts, just called for a boycott.
>
> Finally, if they do adopt minimum wage, this doesn't make sub minimum wage
> go away.
> I question why all people with disabilities should be paid minimum wage.
> Should people who are very cognitively delayed who have no expenses and 
> are
> cared for in group homes be paid minimum wage? Something to think about.
> Should they be paid that much when they cannot see the paycheck and handle
> it like adults? No, they should not be paid $1, but I wonder if they 
> really
> need minimum wage for work that is not comperable to that of other 
> workers.
>
> I have mixed feelings on this issue. Some of you say you are surprised we
> still have sub minimum wage for disabled workers. Well, I have news for 
> you.
> There are jobs exempt from minimum wage standards. Farm workers, even the
> legal workers, are one example. Read some books, and you'll see the
> exemptions and loopholes.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Sophie Trist
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:19 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>
> Brandon, I see what you mean at people shopping at Goodwill. But
> I have sold old clothes and stuff to Goodwill as well. I think
> they mean a boycott in the buying and selling senses.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:42:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>
> Hello,
> I have not shopped at good will in many years. I don't know very
> many people
> who shop at Good Will, so I'm not sure if a Boycott alone will do
> the trick.
> Maybe if everyone contacted their newspapers and TV stations
> telling them of
> the boycott and why there is a boycott. Many people find that
> working
> without minimum wage is insane. But just to hammer the point
> home, point out
> that this under minimum wage is a way for the United States to
> keep a
> handhold on under minimum wage so there is some way for under
> minimum wage
> to be instituted back in for everyone else. The precedent is
> there, so
> everyone needs to overturn this law so no one anywhere in the
> United States
> can ever be paid under minimum wage  again.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Humberto Avila
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:10 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>
> Hello, I agree with this as well. I hope that by doing the
> boycott to this
> company, in the national / universal spectrum, we are able to put
> pressure
> on employers, and on other companies and corporations, as well as
> organizations who pay subminimum wages. We could eventually end
> up
> spreading the word of stopping companies to pay subminimum wages
> and they
> could even see that people with disabilities and including blind
> people are
> capable of being paid like the sighted population. If potential
> employers
> see this change happening, those employers will have a light bulb
> lit up,
> and will be able to see that blind people are competent, then
> will hire
> them. Then we can make more change. I see this happening, from my
> personal
> opinion. Let's hope that the NFB does this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Sophie Trist
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>
> Justin,
>
> I agree with the points you've made. If Goodwill was boycotted
> universally, it would put more pressure on them to pay their
> disabled workers fair wages. Plus, if Goodwill developed a
> centralized wage policy and gave their workers fair wages, other
> corporations might follow their lead.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu
> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:19:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>
> One more note: I think that local business decision-makers within
> Goodwill Industries would be educated/led to philosophical change
> simply by the fact that the corporate leaders of Goodwill
> Industries adopted a universal fair wage policy (if they did), so
> that would help with the education, too.
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Class of 2012
> B.A. in Mathematics
> East Carolina University
> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>
> “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
> can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.?
> —MARGARET MEAD
> ________________________________________
> From: Justin Salisbury
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:13 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Goodwill Boycott
>
> Arielle, Gabe, and all:
>
> I like the point that you've made about the decentralized wage
> policies and rewarding good locations, but do you think that
> perhaps a benefit to boycotting universally would be a
> possibility that Goodwill Industries would create a centralized
> (universal) policy that all locations must pay their workers fair
> wages?
>
> I feel like the end result that we want is for Goodwill
> Industries to adopt a universal standard of paying all workers
> fair wages, and the approach that you all have mentioned seems to
> me to address the decisions in individual locations.  I do
> understand the point of leading local business leaders to undergo
> philosophical change and choose to pay their workers fair wages,
> but which item is the top priority: education of individuals or
> achievement of fair wages?   That's not a rhetorical question; I
> want to hear opinions on it.
>
> Justin
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Class of 2012
> B.A. in Mathematics
> East Carolina University
> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>
> “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
> can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.?
> —MARGARET MEAD
>
>
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