[nabs-l] Schools for the Blind
Joshua Lester
jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Mon Jun 11 17:45:03 UTC 2012
I don't know where that guy got his info, then.
It was someone that I met at Jumpstart, that told me this.
I should've asked around, but it's sad that some of the smarter ones
are held back, just because of those that aren't doing so well.
I knew 2 19-year-old's, that should've graduated two years before I
graduated from public school, but they ended up graduating, in 2008.
I probably would've graduated later, had I not attended public school.
These kids should be able to graduate, on time, with their sighted piers!
Blessings, Joshua
On 6/11/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Josh,
> Just so you know knowone can can attend ASB past the age of 21.
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Sun, 6/10/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 11:46 AM
>> Sophie!
>> You don't know how bad schools for the blind are!
>> Good grief!
>> When I attended the Jumpstart program, at Arkansas School
>> for the
>> Blind, I was sad to see kids my age, who should've graduated
>> from high
>> school, who had straight A's, be held back!
>> I asked around, and the oldest graduates from the school, in
>> 2007, was
>> 25 years old!
>> That's what one former student told me.
>> Sad!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/10/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I was very fortunate to have a good TVI for most of my
>> life, but
>> > when Hurricane Katrina hit, I was forced to leave home
>> and attend
>> > a school for the blind. I was shocked at how horrible
>> it was. On
>> > my first day there, I was taken to a VI class and asked
>> to read a
>> > braille book so that they could evaluate my skills.
>> Within five
>> > minutes, they sent me right back to class. The TVI's
>> there had
>> > nothing new to teach me. I was in a third/fourth-grade
>> class, and
>> > the work was first-grade level. This boils down to we
>> need better
>> > TVI's and more of them.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Date sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:11:25 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Wow!
>> > You're right!
>> > I didn't have a real TVI, for 6/12th grade.
>> > My TVI, (So called,) was a special Ed teacher, who
>> ended up
>> > getting
>> > trained as a TVI.
>> > If she wasn't there to help me, guess where I was
>> forced to go!
>> > Yup!
>> > Special Ed classes!
>> > Of course, I enjoyed it, because the instructor knew I
>> didn't
>> > need to
>> > be there, so she allowed me to help her with the kids,
>> that
>> > actually
>> > needed the help.
>> > Blessings, Joshua
>> >
>> > On 6/10/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > I'm sure many people who have talked to me before
>> know what I'm
>> > going to
>> > say...
>> > It's the educational system that many of these
>> problems come
>> > down to. We
>> > have teachers coming out of school who are not
>> inspired to
>> > create a new
>> > style of teaching. We have teachers who are never
>> taught about
>> > disabled
>> > students. We have blind students who are never
>> taught how to ask
>> > for
>> > accommodations. We have parents who think being
>> blind is bad!
>> > Honestly, if I could have redone my education as
>> a sighted
>> > person, I would
>> > not have done it. Being blind is such an
>> advantage in the United
>> > States when
>> > going through school. You get extra time on
>> everything, you get
>> > leniency on
>> > all your assignments if you can't finish them on
>> time, you get
>> > free
>> > schooling, you get paid to go through school by
>> SSI, you have so
>> > many
>> > scholarships you can apply for, you can use the
>> law to fight for
>> > accessibility with little retribution, you become
>> great friends
>> > with your
>> > teachers just because you get to talk to them all
>> the time, you
>> > are by
>> > nature a very active participant in your class,
>> you are able to
>> > read your
>> > books 1000 times faster than all of the other
>> students combined,
>> > you're able
>> > to get tutoring for free, you don't have to feel
>> ashamed for
>> > taking
>> > advantage of any of the above benefits because
>> you're disabled
>> > and that's
>> > what you're expected to do!
>> > Also, the expectation of your teachers is rather
>> low and when
>> > you get 100%
>> > on all their hardest tests they get all
>> embarrassed, people
>> > think it's
>> > amazing that you're getting strait As when it's
>> nothing,
>> > (Stereotypically)
>> > blind people are very unsocial so they have lots
>> of extra time
>> > to do school
>> > work, you're able to actually edit your teacher's
>> handouts and
>> > instructions
>> > because Jaws doesn't miss skipped letters, if you
>> have a problem
>> > with your
>> > online test you can blame it on your screen
>> reader crashing the
>> > web browser,
>> > state colleges gobble you up if you have ever
>> taken an honors
>> > class at a
>> > community college and you have good grades and
>> you've written
>> > one of those
>> > inspiring essays, when you write inspiring essays
>> you can get
>> > the super
>> > arrogant feeling for a moment and say "That's me
>> in the essay!",
>> > you're able
>> > to participate in all kinds of extra activities
>> through agencies
>> > like Global
>> > explorers or the Light House, you can participate
>> in summer job
>> > programs
>> > like YES1 and YES2 in Washington State, when you
>> go to community
>> > college or
>> > state college you're given a guide through the
>> school because
>> > you need a
>> > mobility lesson and you have the disability
>> resource person...
>> > I should probably stop, but you get the idea...
>> > It's probably because I was homeschooled for the
>> first few years
>> > of my life
>> > and did all kinds of super awesome things with my
>> overly amazing
>> > parents and
>> > didn't enter public school till 5th grade that I
>> have this view
>> > of school,
>> > but I understood that I could learn in public
>> school and it was
>> > just that
>> > either the teacher wasn't teaching me or that I
>> wasn't equipped
>> > with the
>> > skills or technology that was keeping me from
>> learning.
>> > There are many other factors in learning, like
>> Gardiner's
>> > multiple theory
>> > of intelligences that play a factor in if one
>> learns in school,
>> > but thank
>> > goodness I was able to learn that anyone can
>> learn from anyone,
>> > they just
>> > need to know how they learn and learn that way!
>> > I can give examples, but this email is already
>> super long, so
>> > I'll get off
>> > education.
>> > My point is that most blind people aren’t
>> taught about all the
>> > above things.
>> > I was super lucky because my parents let me run
>> my IEP meetings
>> > and my mom
>> > became a TVI half way through my schooling, but
>> every blind
>> > person needs to
>> > know that school can be amazing! It is worth
>> spending 8-12 years
>> > of your
>> > life there getting your music degree or dentist
>> degree.
>> >
>> > Another factor is that disabled people are fit
>> into even a
>> > tighter mold of
>> > what they are to be when disabled people are the
>> most unique of
>> > anyone.
>> > Blind people do not belong in special ed classes
>> because they
>> > don't need
>> > special ed. Special ed teachers are people who
>> teach extreme
>> > cases of
>> > autistic or other mentally disabled people. If a
>> blind person is
>> > put into
>> > that environment and they don't need it, they
>> will go insane!
>> > It's like if
>> > Stephen Hawking would have been born totally
>> disabled and people
>> > stuck him
>> > into special ed just because he can't talk!
>> > Where would cosmology be?
>> > Sadly it's those who break out of the mold and
>> assimilate their
>> > own way into
>> > sighted culture in order to evade the label of
>> mentally disabled
>> > that are
>> > fighting for these rights.
>> >
>> > I keep on telling people that if someone is
>> considered weird
>> > it's not them
>> > that's weird, it's you who's weird for thinking
>> that they're
>> > weird. It's
>> > like you thinking the person in front of you is
>> going through
>> > time the same
>> > way you are!
>> >
>> > Sadly the world is not reasonable, so we have to
>> shuck reason
>> > and go for
>> > emotion. That's why we write all the super
>> inspiring essays and
>> > that's why
>> > we have to assimilate into the sighted world.
>> > Those who end up working in low under minimum
>> wage jobs have
>> > probably not
>> > learned how to assimilate enough to pass off as
>> "normal" in the
>> > sighted
>> > community, so that's probably why they can't get
>> the entry level
>> > jobs.
>> >
>> > Before someone gives the line about not needing
>> to be anything
>> > other than
>> > blind because we are blind, let me just say that
>> most of this
>> > world likes to
>> > think they are sighted and normal. Most people
>> like to walk with
>> > the crowd.
>> > Those who never learn to walk with the crowd are
>> considered
>> > weird, those who
>> > learn how to walk with the crowd then figure out
>> how to rise
>> > above it are
>> > considered great.
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Brandon Keith Biggs
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Arielle Silverman
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:27 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Hi Brandon,
>> > These are all good points. I like your statement
>> about blind
>> > people
>> > who are "nurtured to act like they are mentally
>> disabled" as I
>> > have
>> > met a few people who unfortunately seem to fit
>> that description.
>> > The problem is that there is no objective test to
>> determine what
>> > a
>> > person is or is not capable of doing. Even
>> so-called objective
>> > tests
>> > like IQ tests are incredibly biased and don't
>> account for
>> > environmental factors that artificially limit
>> people's abilities
>> > or
>> > knowledge, like what is expected of them by
>> parents and
>> > teachers, or
>> > what skills they are or are not taught. There is
>> research
>> > showing that
>> > when people are expected to behave or perform in
>> a certain way,
>> > they
>> > tend to fulfill that expectation (this is called
>> a
>> > "self-fulfilling
>> > prophesy; if you're interested in the research,
>> look up
>> > "Pygmalian
>> > effect"). So when teachers are randomly told that
>> some kids are
>> > smarter than others, they tend to treat those
>> "smart" kids
>> > differently
>> > without even realizing it and eventually the
>> "smart" kids end up
>> > performing better than the other kids. The
>> reverse pattern too
>> > often
>> > happens with disabilities. People have so many
>> assumptions about
>> > how
>> > disabilities limit potential, and people in
>> authority can act in
>> > ways
>> > that make those assumptions come true.
>> > I also agree that people with disabilities would
>> be much more
>> > productive in sheltered jobs if they did work
>> that was
>> > intrinsically
>> > interesting to them and if the work was in a
>> field they were
>> > actually
>> > good at. It is common knowledge that people of
>> all ages and
>> > mental
>> > abilities will do a better job at any task if
>> they find the task
>> > enjoyable and motivating. Too often, sheltered
>> jobs are simply
>> > too
>> > boring to really engage people. Also, people with
>> disabilities
>> > have
>> > their own talents that are rarely utilized in
>> sheltered jobs. I
>> > have
>> > figured out that if I were forced to do a
>> sheltered workshop
>> > job, I
>> > would probably be the one losing them money if
>> they paid me at
>> > minimum
>> > wage, because I have never been good at making
>> stuff with my
>> > hands or
>> > using machines. Not only would I be bored to
>> tears, but I just
>> > wouldn't be good at it. I am much better at
>> writing and thinking
>> > and
>> > doing math, so I hope that society will let me
>> use those skills
>> > instead of forcing me to do work I'm not skilled
>> at.
>> > Regarding your comment about unemployment among
>> the blind, it is
>> > true
>> > that many fields are accessible to the blind
>> these days, yet the
>> > unemployment rate is still staggering. There are
>> many reasons
>> > for
>> > unemployment among the blind. I think one reason
>> is that
>> > employers
>> > want to hire applicants with relevant experience,
>> and in many
>> > fields,
>> > the entry-level position that people get at first
>> to gain
>> > experience
>> > isn't accessible to the blind. This might not be
>> true with
>> > programming, but in some fields it is really hard
>> to get your
>> > foot in
>> > the door even if it's easier to work at higher
>> levels. For
>> > example,
>> > before becoming a teacher, you need to do student
>> teaching,
>> > which
>> > means you are working under someone else who
>> might not use
>> > accessible
>> > materials or who will doubt your ability to do
>> the job. Without
>> > experience, it's harder to allay people's initial
>> discriminatory
>> > doubts and fears about hiring a blind person.
>> Also, even within
>> > an
>> > accessible field, individual employers might use
>> materials that
>> > aren't
>> > accessible to the blind. So even though
>> programming is very
>> > accessible, if some employers require you to use
>> languages or
>> > scripts
>> > that aren't accessible, this will limit job
>> options.
>> > Arielle
>> >
>> > On 6/9/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > It's a tricky situation. We can't really say what
>> it's like
>> > being mentally
>> > disabled and it's hard to say what mentally
>> disabled can or can
>> > not do. We
>> > also can't tell if the blind who are nurtured to
>> act like
>> > mentally
>> > disabled
>> > people really are mentally disabled.
>> > *That's a mouthful!*
>> > I am of the opinion that mentally disabled people
>> are way under
>> > employed
>> > and
>> > jobs like Goodwill are completely the wrong job
>> for many of
>> > them. But I'm
>> > not a professional and I can only say from
>> personal experience
>> > that many
>> > mentally disabled people can do what they want
>> quite well and
>> > often it's
>> > because they are babied and misunderstood
>> that they are
>> > pressured into
>> > doing jobs they aren’t good at.
>> >
>> > I do wonder the need of blind adults to be
>> working at good will
>> > in the
>> > first
>> > place though when it's not that hard learning
>> programming and
>> > it's pretty
>> > easy to get reeducated for free in the United
>> States as a blind
>> > person. If
>> > your career isn't working out, I don't see why
>> one wouldn't just
>> > take a
>> > class at their community college and change their
>> job. I believe
>> > SSI is
>> > for
>> > college students and those fresh out of college,
>> or for a back
>> > up when
>> > work
>> > isn't coming. I am still a student, but I know I
>> have for sure
>> > jobs if I
>> > go
>> > into programming or being a TVI. So other than
>> the moral
>> > issues, I'm not
>> > sure why capable blind people are working at
>> goodwill.
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Brandon Keith Biggs
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Arielle Silverman
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 8:32 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > I don't shop at Goodwill either, but I was
>> regularly donating
>> > items
>> > like used clothes to Goodwill, and my parents do
>> as well. A
>> > customer
>> > boycott might not matter much but a donor boycott
>> would probably
>> > hurt
>> > them considerably. I have to say I found Justin's
>> arguments very
>> > persuasive. I just hope that if we boycott all
>> branches
>> > nationally, we
>> > make it very clear that what we want is a change
>> to national
>> > policy.
>> > Interestingly, I used to rent an apartment from a
>> woman (I'll
>> > call her
>> > S) whose full-time job was to be a live-in
>> caretaker for a woman
>> > with
>> > Down's syndrome and significant mental
>> retardation (I'll call
>> > her C).
>> > Since I rented the apartment right below theirs,
>> I got to know
>> > both S
>> > and C quite well and learned a bit about C's
>> situation.
>> > Apparently C
>> > is employed by a program for people with
>> intellectual
>> > disabilities
>> > similar to Goodwill's but it wasn't Goodwill
>> itself. I think S.
>> > told
>> > me that C. was paid around $1 per hour for doing
>> an extremely
>> > menial
>> > job although I don't remember what that job was
>> exactly.
>> > However, I
>> > don't think C. had any living expenses at all
>> because she lived
>> > rent-free with S. She may have been helping pay
>> for groceries.
>> > The
>> > program she was in was very custodial and I'm not
>> sure she even
>> > had
>> > independent access to the money she earned at her
>> job.
>> > I don't think I can really judge whether people
>> with
>> > disabilities like
>> > C.'s are capable of living without custodial care
>> or spending
>> > their
>> > own money, any more than a deaf person should be
>> able to judge
>> > how
>> > independent blind people can be. I do suspect
>> that people like
>> > C.
>> > would achieve more if they were held to higher
>> expectations, and
>> > higher expectations should come with higher wages
>> and more
>> > freedom.
>> > I definitely believe that anyone who lives
>> independently should
>> > be
>> > paid at least the minimum wage, and I think it is
>> clear that
>> > blindness
>> > by itself doesn't prevent anyone from living
>> independently.
>> > However, I
>> > do wonder if minimum wage is necessary for those
>> who don't have
>> > living
>> > expenses or who don't manage their own finances
>> because they are
>> > living in custodial care situations. I'm sure
>> there are people
>> > in
>> > these custodial arrangements who shouldn't be
>> there, but that
>> > almost
>> > sounds like a separate issue. These people aren't
>> in custodial
>> > care
>> > because they are earning low wages, but because
>> their parents or
>> > others acting on their behalf have decided they
>> don't have the
>> > intellect or the maturity to make adult
>> decisions. Again, this
>> > should
>> > never be said about people who are just blind
>> without other
>> > disabilities. As far as intellectual disabilities
>> go, in some
>> > cases
>> > this judgment might be right; in other cases it
>> might be wrong.
>> > But if
>> > someone is clearly not able to manage adult
>> expenses, should
>> > they be
>> > paid adult wages? It's tricky.
>> > I can also understand the argument that if
>> noncompetitive
>> > employment
>> > programs for the disabled raise wages, they can't
>> hire as many
>> > workers. This ultimately means that instead of a
>> bunch of
>> > disabled
>> > workers earning crappy wages, some will earn a
>> decent wage and
>> > others
>> > will earn nothing. Of course, we hope that the
>> reduction in
>> > noncompetitive jobs might bring more disabled
>> workers into the
>> > competitive job market. A mandatory minimum wage
>> would also
>> > force
>> > companies with high salaries at the top to
>> redistribute their
>> > payscale
>> > more fairly.
>> > Arielle
>> >
>> > On 6/9/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I agree, Humberto, and I hope what you say comes
>> true. However,
>> > there's a
>> > lot of change we need to make in order for this
>> to happen. Even
>> > if we
>> > overturn the subminimum wage provision, and I
>> hope and pray that
>> > we do,
>> > we
>> > can't possibly tell employers that they have to
>> hire people with
>> > disabilities. So, we need to change the beliefs
>> and the
>> > attidudes of
>> > society, including employers, about the
>> competence of blind
>> > people. I
>> > know,
>> > it's a big job, but I think we've made a lot of
>> progress so far.
>> >
>> > Just my thoughts,
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Humberto Avila
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:10 PM
>> > To: 'National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list'
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Hello, I agree with this as well. I hope that by
>> doing the
>> > boycott to
>> > this
>> > company, in the national / universal spectrum, we
>> are able to
>> > put
>> > pressure
>> > on employers, and on other companies and
>> corporations, as well
>> > as
>> > organizations who pay subminimum wages. We could
>> eventually end
>> > up
>> > spreading the word of stopping companies to pay
>> subminimum wages
>> > and they
>> > could even see that people with disabilities and
>> including blind
>> > people
>> > are
>> > capable of being paid like the sighted
>> population. If potential
>> > employers
>> > see this change happening, those employers will
>> have a light
>> > bulb lit up,
>> > and will be able to see that blind people are
>> competent, then
>> > will hire
>> > them. Then we can make more change. I see this
>> happening, from
>> > my
>> > personal
>> > opinion. Let's hope that the NFB does this.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:57 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Justin,
>> >
>> > I agree with the points you've made. If Goodwill
>> was boycotted
>> > universally,
>> > it would put more pressure on them to pay their
>> disabled workers
>> > fair
>> > wages. Plus, if Goodwill developed a centralized
>> wage policy and
>> > gave
>> > their
>> > workers fair wages, other corporations might
>> follow their lead.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu
>> > To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun
>> > 2012
>> > 23:19:15 +0000
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > One more note: I think that local business
>> decision-makers
>> > within
>> > Goodwill
>> > Industries would be educated/led to philosophical
>> change simply
>> > by the
>> > fact
>> > that the corporate leaders of Goodwill Industries
>> adopted a
>> > universal
>> > fair
>> > wage policy (if they did), so that would help
>> with the
>> > education, too.
>> >
>> > Justin M. Salisbury
>> > Class of 2012
>> > B.A. in Mathematics
>> > East Carolina University
>> > president at alumni.ecu.edu
>> >
>> > 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
>> committed
>> > citizens
>> > can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only
>> thing that ever
>> > has.?
>> > 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Justin Salisbury
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:13 PM
>> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: Goodwill Boycott
>> >
>> > Arielle, Gabe, and all:
>> >
>> > I like the point that you've made about the
>> decentralized wage
>> > policies
>> > and
>> > rewarding good locations, but do you think that
>> perhaps a
>> > benefit to
>> > boycotting universally would be a possibility
>> that Goodwill
>> > Industries
>> > would create a centralized
>> > (universal) policy that all locations must pay
>> their workers
>> > fair wages?
>> >
>> > I feel like the end result that we want is for
>> Goodwill
>> > Industries to
>> > adopt
>> > a universal standard of paying all workers fair
>> wages, and the
>> > approach
>> > that you all have mentioned seems to me to
>> address the decisions
>> > in
>> > individual locations. I do understand the
>> point of leading
>> > local
>> > business
>> > leaders to undergo philosophical change and
>> choose to pay their
>> > workers
>> > fair wages, but which item is the top priority:
>> education of
>> > individuals
>> > or
>> >
>> > achievement of fair
>> wages? That's not a rhetorical question; I
>> > want to hear opinions on it.
>> >
>> > Justin
>> >
>> > Justin M. Salisbury
>> > Class of 2012
>> > B.A. in Mathematics
>> > East Carolina University
>> > president at alumni.ecu.edu
>> >
>> > 밡ever doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
>> committed
>> > citizens
>> > can change the world; indeed, it뭩 the only
>> thing that ever
>> > has.?
>> > 뾏ARGARET MEAD
>> >
>> >
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