[nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
jeff crouch
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Sat Mar 24 23:11:17 UTC 2012
ah, it must be nice being of legal age, but i am 15, and I would like
to be in a releasonship, but the practicablity of this happening is
slim, with school, and extra crickler activatives things would not
really work out, but as i said, it would be nice.
in a onist way of putting it, from a adault point of view, it would be
pointless for me to get in a releationship because it is just over
reactive hormons that would get in the way and then after a wile
things would simmer down, and hear that person go's, on the hunt
again.
this is my point of view
but i think you would have good luck in the online dating world, but
as one of the posters said, becareful, i know from experence, my
friend did that online stuff, and then well to putt it i have not seen
her for quite some years, she went missing, so be careful
don't mean to sound like a dad, lol
every one have a good day, and if anyone needs to contact me, you can
email me at
jeffanel at gmail.com
or
kd8qiq at arrl.net
with love and respect
Jeff Crouch
On 3/24/12, Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello doug,
>
> Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials with you and mellissa. I'm sooo
> happy for the both of you! Here's wishing you both good health and
> happiness.
>
> Take care and, I will talk to you soon.
>
>
>
> Hugs,
> amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Doug Oliver
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:05 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>
> we are.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>
>
> Doug, good luck with your fiancee. I hope the two of you are
> still working.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:54:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>
> I'm gonna way in on this topic.
> My fiancee is actually sited and I'm blind, she's been around
> blind people
> growing up, so she's very much accustomed to dating a blind
> person.
> We've met in person twice and it's been great.
> Take care,
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>
>
> Hello all,
> Like some of the people who have posted already, I have had my
> own
> experiences with dating, as well as simply meeting people online.
> As a
> matter of fact, my current boyfriend is someone I met online, and
> he
> is blind as well. We have been dating a little over a year now,
> and I
> have also had the chance to meet him in person. I can say that
> some of
> what we've been through, especially when we met, was both good
> and
> bad, and even though he is blind, it was a little more disastrous
> because of his family who are sighted. Well the first time we
> actually
> got to "see" each other was through a webcam, and both families
> were
> present, not only for descriptive purposes but also because of us
> being long distance, and it was the only way the two families
> could
> meet. About 6 months later I got to visit him in person, and that
> was
> a little weird because he lives in another country, and a part of
> another culture, and that in itself brings its own barriers. I
> actually stayed at his house with his family, and I imagine it
> was
> hard on them because they've never dealt with another blind
> person
> besides him, and he is not as independent as I am. I have also
> met
> sighted people online, but I did not meet them through dating
> sites. I
> met them through pages we both visit, (blogs, etc), and in my
> opinion,
> that's better because you're actually meeting people you have
> things
> in common with, regardless of whether you date or not, and like
> most
> people have said already, one of the main things to consider when
> dating someone, blind or sighted, is what kinds of things you
> share in
> common with the other person. I personally have never dated a
> sighted
> person, but I have made some interesting friends online who are
> sighted. Some know I'm blind, and some do not, but not because I
> haven't wanted to tell them. I don't meet these people in person
> mainly because most of them are not from the U.S. and therefore
> it
> really hasn't come up. Besides, I'm not as close to them, and we
> mainly talk about music, which is what i have in common with most
> of
> these people I meet anyway. I have also met blind friends online,
> and
> basically the same goes for them. So as most people have already
> said,
> I don't think it's that much different dating a sighted person
> from a
> blind person. A blind person might be a little more understanding
> considering they go through some of the same things. But on the
> other
> side, that may not always be the case, if the person isn't
> completely
> adjusted to their blindness, or they have been with their family
> their
> entire life, and don't really understand the independence issue
> such
> as in my case. So I think dating both blind and sighted people
> can
> have their ups and downs, and it's just a matter of knowing how
> to
> handle each situation as it comes. Good luck.
>
>
> On 3/22/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a little experience with online dating, but not much. I
> was on
> a dating site for a year or so and chatted with a few guys but
> didn't
> find anyone I actually wanted to meet in person. I have a lot of
> friends (sighted and blind) who do online dating and I've heard
> the
> whole gamut, from happily-ever-after marriages to disastrous
> first
> dates and a few people who walked away after my friend's
> blindness was
> revealed online. It really doesn't hurt to try it. If you do
> find
> someone you like and want to meet, it's best to meet them in a
> public
> place. But there's nothing dangerous about just putting a
> profile up
> and seeing what happens.
> Some dating sites are free and others charge a fee for joining.
> Interestingly, the site I used was free, and when I was visiting
> my
> sister and her roommate they were checking out one of the paid
> sites.
> I told them about the free site I was on and they looked at it
> and
> said they thought the guys on the free site were a lot more
> attractive
> and appealing than the guys on the paid one. So it's possible
> the
> people you might meet on a free site are less "desperate" and
> hence
> are better catches.
> I'm sure there's a lot of debate about when to reveal blindness
> during
> an online dating encounter. Some people put it in their
> profiles,
> others wait until the first meeting and still others reveal it
> at some
> point in the middle. I'd tend to treat it like a job interview
> and
> reveal blindness after I've connected with someone online but
> before
> we meet in person so they aren't totally shocked or freaked out
> when
> they see me. Unfortunately rejections due to blindness can
> happen at
> any point in the process. You'll have to decide whether you
> would
> prefer to take that risk earlier on or to give them a chance to
> get to
> know you before they learn about your blindness.
> Regarding dating blind vs. sighted people: Like many of us I
> have done
> both. I never consciously decided that I wanted to date a blind
> person
> or a sighted person, and I would not recommend that line of
> thinking.
> I simply dated guys with whom I felt a connection and who felt
> the
> same way toward me, regardless of whether or not they were
> blind. I
> will say that in some ways establishing the initial relationship
> was
> easier with blind guys, because I didn't have to wonder about
> what
> nonverbal signals they were sending or how they might interpret
> my
> nonverbal signals. However, when I try to compare the
> relationship I
> have had with my sighted boyfriend over the past three years
> with the
> other relationships I have had with blind guys, I really can't
> think
> of any major differences. I do think that regardless of
> blindness
> status, it's important for you and your partner to share
> interests and
> passions in common. NFB and blindness are passions that many of
> us
> share, and they help bring many blind couples together. However,
> there
> are other interests or passions you may share with sighted folks
> around you, and finding a partner who shares one of those
> passions
> with you can be similarly rewarding. In other words, instead of
> deciding who to date based on whether they are sighted or blind,
> I
> think it's more helpful to choose based on how much you share in
> common with them. I know that for us blind folks it can be hard
> to
> meet and connect with people at bars or large gatherings like
> singles'
> parties. But if you can find communities of people that share
> your
> interests-whether that be your local NFB chapter or student
> division,
> classes, church groups or clubs you might be in-that's a much
> better
> way to build lasting connections.
> Arielle
>
> On 3/22/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oops, I missed a point: I wouldn't go to an NFB convention
> simply for
> the dating scene. I'm sure relationships do develop at things
> like
> that, however most people are going to be preoccupied with
> general
> sessions, exhibits, orientation around a huge massive hotel, etc
> etc
> to really pay attention to who's around them for dating.
>
> Later.
>
> On 22.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hello Robin,
>
> Or you could just go ahead and do the online dating thing and
> learn
> from it. It has turned out well for some, and not so well for
> others.
> As for the sighted vs. blind thing, I would ask what you want.
> Not
> dating a blind person simply because you think you'll look cool
> and
> more independent for dating a sighted person will limit your
> options,
> just like not dating a sighted person because you're afraid of
> being
> rejected is crazy as well. We're all individuals. Many blind
> people
> have underlying disabilities, some may not be adjusted to their
> blindness completely, etc but you wouldn't have to
> necessarily
> feel self-conscious about the blindness issues, your appearance,
> etc
> etc. Sighted people in my experience are going to ask many
> questions.
> Especially at first, you'll probably have to do a whole lot more
> educating than dating, and it might get annoying, but many are
> willing
> to learn and it could work out. As for good dating sites ... why
> not
> just getting onto the social networks like Facebook and put your
> status as single? Maybe attend some of the singles conferences
> that
> are out there? And if someone interests you, then go after them
> (whether online or not).
>
> Anyway, talk to you later and peace. May you have much luck with
> your
> dating search.
>
> Nimer J
>
> On 22.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> Also, it has been proven, that there are people on chat sites,
> that
> pretend to be something, to get your attention, and then when
> you meet
> them, they're a criminal.
> Be careful, and meet people one on one, and in person.
> Come to the NFB convention, and you might meet someone, and oh
> yes,
> there are sighted members in the NFB, as well!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 3/22/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have never gone on to any of the online dating sites, but I
> would be
> very
> careful because a person online is not as friendly or charming
> as they
> appear to be over emails. I have dated very few blind people and
> find
> that
> there is always a focus on blindness in the relationship and I
> feel
> that
> is
> a negative thing at times because we all live with blindness on
> a
> daily
> basis and want to know we are more than our blindness. I have
> found
> there
> are a lot of people open to dating a blind person especially
> when they
> are
> confident and out going. I have been in a relationship with a
> sited
> person
> for 3 years and things are wonderful.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robin" <robinmel71 at earthlink.net
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>
>
> Hello to everyone,
> I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with online
> dating
> and if so what sites would you recommend? What experiences have
> you
> had
> with dating sighted people vs dating blind people? I look
> forward to
> hearing your stories.
>
>
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
> Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
> like a
> breeze
>
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
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