[nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 01:34:13 UTC 2012
Hi Brian,
What station? Maybe I can listen to your show online!
Chris Nusbaum
Sent from my BrailleNote
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From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
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sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:23:54 -0400
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Josh,
I do part time at a commercial station already!
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From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:37 PM
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Hi, Brian.
I know plenty of blind women, who are endependent!
Didn't you say in a previous post, that you were an aspiring DJ?
Why not try to apply to work for this station?
http://www.wics.cc
The owner of this station, is an endependent blind woman!
Please try to show more compassion!
Thanks, Desiree, for the great post!
I'm in agreement with you!
Blessings, Joshua
On 3/25/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
wrote:
In my experiences with visually handicapped women most of them
I've
encountered that are at my age level are uneducated and still
living
under
their parents roof. My rule is that any woman I date should be
on the
same
level both chronologically and mentally as I am. I've graduated
college
and
have been on my own since 2003. I am very independent.
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From: "jeff crouch" <jeffanel at gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:24 PM
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Yeah, I would like to try dating a VI Girl, just to see what it
would
be like, But unfornchely their is no one hear in flint.
On 3/25/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
wrote:
Me neither. But I am just warning Jeff to be careful. Back
then when
I
went on dates I enjoyed myself very much. But I noticed during
the High
School years most girls weren't as accepting of me and I had
more luck
with
dating during college than high school. But again during the
few times
I
dated as a teen I had fun.
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:43 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with dating during high school. It
was
fun!!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Brian Hatgelakas
<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
@Jeff my advice to you is wait until college to start dating. I
did
this
and am very happy I did. By doing this the women by the time
you
enter
college will be much more mature and accepting of your blindness
situation. Right now as a teenager make friends and don't get
caught
up
in something you know won't last. Because at your age its
mostly
figuring out who you are and that's the same for girls. Good
luck in
your studies and don't worry as you get older your chance to
date
will
be
hear before you know it.
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:11 PM
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ah, it must be nice being of legal age, but i am 15, and I would
like
to be in a releasonship, but the practicablity of this happening
is
slim, with school, and extra crickler activatives things would
not
really work out, but as i said, it would be nice.
in a onist way of putting it, from a adault point of view, it
would
be
pointless for me to get in a releationship because it is just
over
reactive hormons that would get in the way and then after a wile
things would simmer down, and hear that person go's, on the hunt
again.
this is my point of view
but i think you would have good luck in the online dating world,
but
as one of the posters said, becareful, i know from experence, my
friend did that online stuff, and then well to putt it i have
not
seen
her for quite some years, she went missing, so be careful
don't mean to sound like a dad, lol
every one have a good day, and if anyone needs to contact me,
you
can
email me at
jeffanel at gmail.com
or
kd8qiq at arrl.net
with love and respect
Jeff Crouch
On 3/24/12, Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net> wrote:
Hello doug,
Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials with you and mellissa.
I'm
sooo
happy for the both of you! Here's wishing you both good health
and
happiness.
Take care and, I will talk to you soon.
Hugs,
amy
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On
Behalf
Of Doug Oliver
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:05 PM
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we are.
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:28 PM
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Doug, good luck with your fiancee. I hope the two of you are
still working.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com
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Date sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:54:51 -0500
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I'm gonna way in on this topic.
My fiancee is actually sited and I'm blind, she's been around
blind people
growing up, so she's very much accustomed to dating a blind
person.
We've met in person twice and it's been great.
Take care,
Doug
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:42 PM
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Hello all,
Like some of the people who have posted already, I have had my
own
experiences with dating, as well as simply meeting people
online.
As a
matter of fact, my current boyfriend is someone I met online,
and
he
is blind as well. We have been dating a little over a year now,
and I
have also had the chance to meet him in person. I can say that
some of
what we've been through, especially when we met, was both good
and
bad, and even though he is blind, it was a little more
disastrous
because of his family who are sighted. Well the first time we
actually
got to "see" each other was through a webcam, and both families
were
present, not only for descriptive purposes but also because of
us
being long distance, and it was the only way the two families
could
meet. About 6 months later I got to visit him in person, and
that
was
a little weird because he lives in another country, and a part
of
another culture, and that in itself brings its own barriers. I
actually stayed at his house with his family, and I imagine it
was
hard on them because they've never dealt with another blind
person
besides him, and he is not as independent as I am. I have also
met
sighted people online, but I did not meet them through dating
sites. I
met them through pages we both visit, (blogs, etc), and in my
opinion,
that's better because you're actually meeting people you have
things
in common with, regardless of whether you date or not, and like
most
people have said already, one of the main things to consider
when
dating someone, blind or sighted, is what kinds of things you
share in
common with the other person. I personally have never dated a
sighted
person, but I have made some interesting friends online who are
sighted. Some know I'm blind, and some do not, but not because
I
haven't wanted to tell them. I don't meet these people in
person
mainly because most of them are not from the U.S. and therefore
it
really hasn't come up. Besides, I'm not as close to them, and
we
mainly talk about music, which is what i have in common with
most
of
these people I meet anyway. I have also met blind friends
online,
and
basically the same goes for them. So as most people have
already
said,
I don't think it's that much different dating a sighted person
from a
blind person. A blind person might be a little more
understanding
considering they go through some of the same things. But on the
other
side, that may not always be the case, if the person isn't
completely
adjusted to their blindness, or they have been with their family
their
entire life, and don't really understand the independence issue
such
as in my case. So I think dating both blind and sighted people
can
have their ups and downs, and it's just a matter of knowing how
to
handle each situation as it comes. Good luck.
On 3/22/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have a little experience with online dating, but not much. I
was on
a dating site for a year or so and chatted with a few guys but
didn't
find anyone I actually wanted to meet in person. I have a lot
of
friends (sighted and blind) who do online dating and I've heard
the
whole gamut, from happily-ever-after marriages to disastrous
first
dates and a few people who walked away after my friend's
blindness was
revealed online. It really doesn't hurt to try it. If you do
find
someone you like and want to meet, it's best to meet them in a
public
place. But there's nothing dangerous about just putting a
profile up
and seeing what happens.
Some dating sites are free and others charge a fee for joining.
Interestingly, the site I used was free, and when I was visiting
my
sister and her roommate they were checking out one of the paid
sites.
I told them about the free site I was on and they looked at it
and
said they thought the guys on the free site were a lot more
attractive
and appealing than the guys on the paid one. So it's possible
the
people you might meet on a free site are less "desperate" and
hence
are better catches.
I'm sure there's a lot of debate about when to reveal blindness
during
an online dating encounter. Some people put it in their
profiles,
others wait until the first meeting and still others reveal it
at some
point in the middle. I'd tend to treat it like a job interview
and
reveal blindness after I've connected with someone online but
before
we meet in person so they aren't totally shocked or freaked out
when
they see me. Unfortunately rejections due to blindness can
happen at
any point in the process. You'll have to decide whether you
would
prefer to take that risk earlier on or to give them a chance to
get to
know you before they learn about your blindness.
Regarding dating blind vs. sighted people: Like many of us I
have done
both. I never consciously decided that I wanted to date a blind
person
or a sighted person, and I would not recommend that line of
thinking.
I simply dated guys with whom I felt a connection and who felt
the
same way toward me, regardless of whether or not they were
blind. I
will say that in some ways establishing the initial relationship
was
easier with blind guys, because I didn't have to wonder about
what
nonverbal signals they were sending or how they might interpret
my
nonverbal signals. However, when I try to compare the
relationship I
have had with my sighted boyfriend over the past three years
with the
other relationships I have had with blind guys, I really can't
think
of any major differences. I do think that regardless of
blindness
status, it's important for you and your partner to share
interests and
passions in common. NFB and blindness are passions that many of
us
share, and they help bring many blind couples together.
However,
there
are other interests or passions you may share with sighted folks
around you, and finding a partner who shares one of those
passions
with you can be similarly rewarding. In other words, instead of
deciding who to date based on whether they are sighted or blind,
I
think it's more helpful to choose based on how much you share in
common with them. I know that for us blind folks it can be hard
to
meet and connect with people at bars or large gatherings like
singles'
parties. But if you can find communities of people that share
your
interests-whether that be your local NFB chapter or student
division,
classes, church groups or clubs you might be in-that's a much
better
way to build lasting connections.
Arielle
On 3/22/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICÅ‚ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
Oops, I missed a point: I wouldn't go to an NFB convention
simply for
the dating scene. I'm sure relationships do develop at things
like
that, however most people are going to be preoccupied with
general
sessions, exhibits, orientation around a huge massive hotel, etc
etc
to really pay attention to who's around them for dating.
Later.
On 22.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICÅ‚ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Robin,
Or you could just go ahead and do the online dating thing and
learn
from it. It has turned out well for some, and not so well for
others.
As for the sighted vs. blind thing, I would ask what you want.
Not
dating a blind person simply because you think you'll look cool
and
more independent for dating a sighted person will limit your
options,
just like not dating a sighted person because you're afraid of
being
rejected is crazy as well. We're all individuals. Many blind
people
have underlying disabilities, some may not be adjusted to their
blindness completely, etc but you wouldn't have to
necessarily
feel self-conscious about the blindness issues, your appearance,
etc
etc. Sighted people in my experience are going to ask many
questions.
Especially at first, you'll probably have to do a whole lot more
educating than dating, and it might get annoying, but many are
willing
to learn and it could work out. As for good dating sites ...
why
not
just getting onto the social networks like Facebook and put your
status as single? Maybe attend some of the singles conferences
that
are out there? And if someone interests you, then go after them
(whether online or not).
Anyway, talk to you later and peace. May you have much luck
with
your
dating search.
Nimer J
On 22.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
wrote:
Also, it has been proven, that there are people on chat sites,
that
pretend to be something, to get your attention, and then when
you meet
them, they're a criminal.
Be careful, and meet people one on one, and in person.
Come to the NFB convention, and you might meet someone, and oh
yes,
there are sighted members in the NFB, as well!
Blessings, Joshua
On 3/22/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I have never gone on to any of the online dating sites, but I
would be
very
careful because a person online is not as friendly or charming
as they
appear to be over emails. I have dated very few blind people
and
find
that
there is always a focus on blindness in the relationship and I
feel
that
is
a negative thing at times because we all live with blindness on
a
daily
basis and want to know we are more than our blindness. I have
found
there
are a lot of people open to dating a blind person especially
when they
are
confident and out going. I have been in a relationship with a
sited
person
for 3 years and things are wonderful.
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
Hello to everyone,
I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with online
dating
and if so what sites would you recommend? What experiences have
you
had
with dating sighted people vs dating blind people? I look
forward to
hearing your stories.
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
Perhaps
there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
like a
breeze
among flowers.
Hellen Keller
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