[nabs-l] NVDA Questions

Fri Nov 9 17:24:09 UTC 2012

since you are involved with nvda, maybe you can help me understand a piece of it i myself haven't had the time to look into just yet:
I have seen people writing countless scripts for jaws (some of them useless, such as the one where you put jaws to sleep in certain applications, since the screen reader itself has this function already). are scripts in nvda as "easy" to do? i haven't been required to dive into that universe just yet.

Mauricio
On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> NVDA does have a language detect feature that can be enabled, and NVDA
> allows for writing scripts and plugins as well. I'm not sure what you
> meant about the dictionary bit though.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 11/9/12, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
>> greetings,
>> 
>> I charge for certain services, such as placing websites under WCAG's
>> compliance, ofr instance, however, most of my official work has to be done
>> in south america as that is where brazilian companies can operate with their
>> brasilian registrations in an easy manner.
>> I obviously know those capabilities as i use jaws since it's 5.20 version,
>> but i figured i wouldn't post every single function of each of them in the
>> list.
>> The need to use a cursor or not varies very much based on two factors: one,
>> what activities you perform, two, how you choose to perform them.
>> window eyes is cheaper than jaws, in the sense that gwmicro offers a monthly
>> plan, which, for some people, means that they can afford it.when giving
>> people options, you have to consider different realities and let them choose
>> what is best for them.
>> 
>> as far as tables, I referred to the default layout, given that almost
>> everything is customizable in a screen reader today. as she is switching
>> screen readers and wanted a comparison, it was definitely worth mentioning
>> the default layouts are different.
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> mauricio
>> On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Brandon and listers: NVDA does have a multilingual featuer, but depends on
>>> what voice you use. AT least on the Eloquence specific to NVDA
>>> http://is.gd/kcE6pU
>>> by going NVDA+v, you can select either l for Latinamerican. a for American
>>> English.
>>> Gerardo
>>> El 09/11/2012 10:32 a.m., Brandon Keith Biggs escribió:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I use both, the only reason why I use Jaws still is because I am
>>>> constantly using Jaws scripts for products that NVDA would never support.
>>>> I've also not the time to write dictionary's for NVDA like I have with
>>>> Jaws. I also use the multiple language switching feature in Jaws
>>>> constantly, so that is another thing NVDA doesn't have to my knowledge.
>>>> Admittedly I don't have
>>>> training on NVDA like I do with Jaws, but what I have found is that NVDA
>>>> is awesome except for the above.
>>>> I do know people who swear  by system access though, but I've never used
>>>> it.
>>>> My mom, a TVI is looking to switch over to NVDA for her students instead
>>>> of Jaws because of the huge cost of maintaining Jaws for both the school
>>>> and the student's family.
>>>> I say go with it! Just make sure you change that voice!
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:47 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NVDA Questions
>>>> 
>>>> Mauricio,
>>>> 
>>>> You are a consultant for access and you charge for services however
>>>> you do not know the differences between JAWS and NVDA. First, NVDA and
>>>> JAWS both read tables in the layout that you choose, depending on how
>>>> you have the web layout set in both of their options. Object
>>>> navigation will not read every single thing that the JAWS cursor does,
>>>> but this is imaterial as you aren't normally having to use the JAWS
>>>> cursor or the NVDA cursor in Microsoft apps. And Window-Eyes is
>>>> definitely not cheaper than JAWS, unless you're talking about JAWS
>>>> professional, and window-eyes web browser support lacks behind JAWS
>>>> and NVDA both, or at least did before version eight came out, although
>>>> it's a bit better now.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, that's all I have to contribute. I would give NVDA a try, I would
>>>> ask lots of questions, I am one of the moderators on nvda's list on
>>>> freelists, and there is also a support list for NVDA that can be found
>>>> by accessing nvda-project.org and going to the community link I think.
>>>> I would try it out and if it works for you, great. If it doesn't, then
>>>> it doesn't.
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/9/12, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ariel and Listers: Definitely a bit of a learning curve especially
>>>>> in the equivalent of Jaws cursor (In NvDA is called Object Navegation)
>>>>> but other than that, it's nearly the same as Jaws; Oh and also a
>>>>> learning curve in that when going to a form field, you have to do Enter
>>>>> to get in; other than that it's nearly the same; same basic commands
>>>>> using the Caps lock key plus down arrow to read all, Caps lock key
>>>>> (also
>>>>> called the NVDA key) plus up arrow reads current line.
>>>>> The NVDA keyboard help and manual found by going to NVDA+n to reach the
>>>>> NVDA menu, are very helpful and welll done! Good luck!
>>>>> El 08/11/2012 08:27 p.m., Arielle Silverman escribió:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I apologize if these are dumb questions to ask, but I know nothing at
>>>>>> all about NVDA and I am wondering what your experiences have been with
>>>>>> it, how it compares to JAWS in terms of compatibility with basic
>>>>>> Microsoft applications and what the learning curve is like to
>>>>>> transition from JAWS to NVDA. I have been a consistent JAWS user for
>>>>>> the past twenty years and I have generally been happy with JAWS, but
>>>>>> recently I have been feeling kind of disappointed with the Web browser
>>>>>> support in Windows 7 and I am also getting tired of paying for JAWS
>>>>>> upgrades, so I am considering switching to NVDA. I need a screen
>>>>>> reader that works smoothly with Microsoft Word, Excel, and Web
>>>>>> browsers but not much else (though SAS support would be nice too).
>>>>>> What are your suggestions? And if I already know JAWS commands, is it
>>>>>> a big switch to go to NVDA?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>> 
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