[nabs-l] blind cashiers/burger flippers

Mon Nov 19 15:12:02 UTC 2012

Kurt,

While there are many alternative techniques to using a cash register, including the use of fully talking registers, I also failed to imagine how I could utilize a touchscreen device from the mainstream establishment. I see little chance that businesses will change registers for a blind person. Modifications would probably fall under what we consider unreasonable.

Unfortunately, this is just the way the cookie crumbles. And we are better off fighting bigger battles than these.

Now, if the overall business of blind merchants establishments comes under attack, and is under threat of being inaccessible, we should act to change the situation.

This is unfortunate. There are many millions of jobs that we can start doing, except for that they are not accessible. I was limited to phone work at Home Depot store because it was probably considered not safe for me to do many other things there. And if something were considered safe, it was likely not accessible. 

I knew four instance that I would have little trouble selling appliances. But there was another problem. Coworkers didn't think I could do the job, nor did they accept the fact that I would be taking one of theirs.

On Nov 16, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chris,
>  I haven't gotten the job yet, but it seems like I stand a decent
> shot because I know the owner and he's indicated a lot of interest.
> And, I agree with you about needing to find an alternative technique
> for using a cash register, but I fail to see how that has more
> potential danger than cooking.  Like I said, I'm confident in my
> ability to cook safely, but I happen to think there are more risks to
> my physical safety in a kitchen than behind a cash register.
> 
> On 11/16/12, christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kirt,
>> The only problem I can think of in running a cash register as a blind
>> person is the problem of knowing what money you're getting back and
>> giving back the right change. Of course, most of this is computerize
>> now, but it still helps for you to know what money is being given to
>> you. Without an iPhone with The look tell money reader app, or some
>> other kind of money reader, you just have to trust people.
>> Unfortunately, this is not always a good way to go. But, there are
>> solutions. Congratulations on getting the job!
>> 
>> Chris Nusbaum
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Brandon,
>>> I totally agree with you that it's safe, extremely safe, to be a
>>> blind cook if you know what you're doing.  However, I'm slightly
>>> baffled as to what you think might be unsafe about running a cash
>>> register"  Enlighten me?
>>> 
>>> On 11/15/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Cooking is safer than working the cash registers in my opinion.
>>>> I've never used the machine's McDonalds uses, but if you asked to have a
>>>> tour after closing time so you can feel the cookers and learn how they
>>>> work,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure you could figure out how to use them.
>>>> Just make fudge or something while your friend is over. If he knows
>>>> anything
>>>> 
>>>> about cooking, he should know that not much is more dangerous than
>>>> working
>>>> with boiling Carmel.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:38 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] blind cashiers/burger flippers
>>>> 
>>>> Hey, gang,
>>>> I know this e-mail might sound a bit odd, but here goes.  There's a
>>>> good chance I'll be working at my local Macdonalds very shortly.  The
>>>> owner (who is a fairly close family friend) is understandably, but I
>>>> think unnecessarily, afraid of me potentially using any equipment that
>>>> hasn't been specifically adapted for blind people.  I'll have to
>>>> convince him I can really flip hamburgers and use a grill, but I think
>>>> he's one of the people who will "get it" after a little education.
>>>> Now, here are my questions to you.
>>>> Have any of you handled cash registers and credit card machines
>>>> before and, if so, what kinds of techniques have you used to deal with
>>>> credit cards?  I'm not really worried about organizing cash, but I'm
>>>> thinking a regular, run-of-the-mill credit card machine might be a
>>>> little tricky...not impossible, mind, but tricky.  Have any of you
>>>> used any "accessible" credit card machines in already established
>>>> restaurants?
>>>> Also...if any of you have any tips on how I can best convince my
>>>> managers that I really can cook safely, even in a back room industrial
>>>> kitchen like Macdonalds, that'd be appreciated.  I have no doubt I can
>>>> do it; what I don't know how to do, I'll be able to learn.  Still, I'm
>>>> thinking convincing the people I work with that I'll be safe is
>>>> another beast entirely.  Thoughts?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kirt
>>>> 
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