[nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE: Long-Distance Dating

Sat Sep 8 03:09:52 UTC 2012

which movies are you looking for? I might have them and then some.

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From: "tiffany miles" <qtiffany1 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:09 PM
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE: 
Long-Distance Dating

> Hi all my name is Tiffany and I have a question I am trying to find
> free audio descriptive movies they were accessable on
> blindmicemart.com but are no longer there does anyone know where i can
> go to find movies like the ones on blindmicemart.com
>
> On 9/7/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Please don't use me as a reason to tell somebody that a certain 
>> discussion
>> can't be had on this list. Although I'm not in a position to comment on
>> Koby's original question because of my age and lack of experience on this
>> topic, I do believe it is a valid question and one which is on-topic for
>> this list, or at least for the list as it was intended to be. If a
>> discussion about having sex as a blind person is not appropriate for a 
>> high
>> school student such as myself to read, why do the high schools we go to
>> offer sex education classes as part of their curricula? If we are not
>> mature
>> enough to even read a question which has any sort of sexual implication,
>> why
>> is time set aside during the school year to have class discussions about
>> the
>> truth about sex? If we are to be so sheltered as to never even learn the
>> first thing about sex until we are full-grown adults, why are our parents
>> encouraged by their children's schools and just about everybody else who
>> knows anything about the education of children to teach their children
>> about
>> sex at an early age? We learn about sex, and our parents are encouraged
>> (and
>> often do) teach us about it because it is a fact of life; it is a part of
>> the real world, whether you like it or not. Too often young people as 
>> young
>> as 13 or 14 are peer-pressured to have sex or to say or do something that
>> has a sexual implication. This is why I believe it is important that we
>> learn about sex at an early age; the good, the bad, and the ugly of it.
>> Then
>> we will be able to make a truly informed decision as to what we will do 
>> in
>> regards to sex. Conversely, if we are sheltered, as you suggest, and 
>> don't
>> learn the first thing about sex or similar subjects, we will not be
>> properly
>> prepared for the real world as it is today. While it is important that
>> parents teach their children morals, I believe it is equally important 
>> that
>> they be honest with their children about what is really out there in the
>> real world and the consequences of getting involved in things like sex at
>> an
>> early age. While I appreciate your efforts to keep the list free of
>> inappropriate discussion and protect me and our other high school 
>> students
>> from inappropriate content, I feel that you are doing it to the extreme,
>> borderlining over-protectedness and sheltering. I joined this list as 
>> well
>> as others knowing that I would be exposed to some parts of the real world
>> which are somewhat adult in nature, but also knowing that I had the 
>> option
>> not to comment on or follow those threads I felt uncomfortable with
>> reading,
>> and that there were many people on this list and others who are much 
>> older
>> than I and therefore might talk about things I haven't been exposed to as
>> much yet. But I don't have a problem with this, as I respect everybody's
>> right to freedom of speech. In short, the fact of my being a high school
>> student as well as a member of this list should not and (in my opinion)
>> does
>> not restrict the freedom of speech of any other member of this list to
>> discuss what he/she wants to discuss, as long as it remains on topic for
>> this list; that is, that it has something to do with blindness and/or 
>> being
>> a student. If the moderator feels that the discussion is off-topic, he is
>> the one whose job it is to tell whoever started the discussion. But just
>> don't use my age as support for your claim that something is 
>> inappropriate
>> for this list.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:47 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>
>> Koby: this is off topic, especially since there are high schoolers on 
>> here.
>> Thanks, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>> Koby [kobycox at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:42 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>
>> All,
>> What should I do If this girl wants to have sex when I see her?
>> Koby
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Arielle and all,
>>>    Jason is the love I thought I'd never have.  YEs, we get on each
>> other's nerves.  YEs, he argues with me sometimes, but people call him no
>> good, bad, really stupid, whuatever you say they say it about him.  I 
>> think
>> Jason has a sweet side to him.  I love Jason so much and we met in June.
>> His mom was able to pay for the flight, but I'm afraid she won't this
>> December or so.  I'm trying to make it easy for her to pay for it again 
>> so
>> I
>> can be down there with him.  I want Jason to know that just because he's
>> blind, heart issues and all that, that doesn't mean that his life is 
>> over.
>> HE can marry, he can have a relationship, he can have kids if he so
>> desires,
>> and he may engage in sex if that's whuat he wants.  Some men are nervous
>> about sex and relationships, even Jason.  But with the help of my coaxing
>> and calm manner, he was able to enjoy himself with me.  At least he 
>> doesn't
>> engage in the trade of child porn and other inappropriate things that
>> sighted men would engage in.  He has a good sense of right and wrong.  He
>> loves chocolate for breakfast. (hee hee), though I prefer eggs myself. 
>> If
>> I
>> look back and turn the clock back, I see that I have not made a bad 
>> choice
>> as some are led to believe.  Honestly, I have insecurity issues, and I 
>> see
>> myself at fault for a stupid email I sent to his mother because I was 
>> truly
>> upset at sommething he did that was really inappropriate and I don't want
>> to
>> share with this list.  I love Jason no matter what he does to me or 
>> whuaft
>> I
>> do to him.  All I can do is say that it's emotionally trying not having
>> Jason near me, but this relationship is good when the winds of good 
>> fortune
>> blow in our direction.  Arielle, Im glad at least you have a good
>> boyfriend.
>> Btw, for all of us, how can I make up with Jason's family without sending
>> an
>> email?  I really want to see him again, and supposedly his mom resents me
>> for sending that email.  That's the only thing about the relationship 
>> that
>> I
>> don't like very much.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:01:32 -0600
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Cindy, I generally agree with you about keeping this list to
>>> blindness-related discussions. However, I do think long-distance
>>> dating issues like the one Koby brought up are perhaps more relevant
>>> to us blind students than they are for sighted students, especially
>>> those of us who are involved in the NFB.  This is because, for many
>>> reasons, some of us want to date other blind/NFB people and because
>>> our community is so spread out, we may often end up in similar
>>> situations where we have to decide if we want to enter a long-distance
>>> relationship with someone we know from this community. So I'd like to
>>> offer a brief response on-list and hope that others in similar
>>> situations might find it helpful.
>>> During college I was in a long-distance relationship with someone I
>>> met through NFB for about a year. In hindsight I do not regret that
>>> decision at all. I had fun, learned a lot and he and I are still
>>> friends. I will also say that parts of it were emotionally very hard
>>> to deal with--in my particular case an airplane ticket between my
>>> location and his cost nearly $500 and we did not see each other for
>>> five months, which was emotionally trying at times. I do not think I
>>> would do another long-distance relationship and my current boyfriend
>>> and I will be making an effort to ensure we will not have to be living
>>> in separate places for any length of time. However, again, I enjoyed
>>> the one experience I had overall and learned a lot from it. I think if
>>> you and this girl really like each other and you can find a way to see
>>> each other on a somewhat regular basis, there's no harm in trying and
>>> you can always decide later on to just be friends. However, it is
>>> something to give a little serious thought to before you make that
>>> kind of commitment. You also want to talk with her and make sure that
>>> the two of you have similar expectations for how serious of a
>>> relationship this will be and how often you will be able to see each
>>> other. It will be hard if one of you is much more enthused about the
>>> relationship than the other. But if the two of you are generally on
>>> the same page and are really committed to it, it can be fun.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Arielle
>>>
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