[nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE: Long-Distance Dating

Sat Sep 8 03:19:48 UTC 2012

I can send you the link off of list.

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From: "tiffany miles" <qtiffany1 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:18 PM
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE: 
Long-Distance Dating

> do u know where i can find the accessable movies that were on
> blincemart.com  i have a lot i am looking for
>
> On 9/7/12, raymond lombardi <ray214 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> which movies are you looking for? I might have them and then some.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "tiffany miles" <qtiffany1 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:09 PM
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE:
>> Long-Distance Dating
>>
>>> Hi all my name is Tiffany and I have a question I am trying to find
>>> free audio descriptive movies they were accessable on
>>> blindmicemart.com but are no longer there does anyone know where i can
>>> go to find movies like the ones on blindmicemart.com
>>>
>>> On 9/7/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Joshua,
>>>>
>>>> Please don't use me as a reason to tell somebody that a certain
>>>> discussion
>>>> can't be had on this list. Although I'm not in a position to comment on
>>>> Koby's original question because of my age and lack of experience on
>>>> this
>>>> topic, I do believe it is a valid question and one which is on-topic 
>>>> for
>>>> this list, or at least for the list as it was intended to be. If a
>>>> discussion about having sex as a blind person is not appropriate for a
>>>> high
>>>> school student such as myself to read, why do the high schools we go to
>>>> offer sex education classes as part of their curricula? If we are not
>>>> mature
>>>> enough to even read a question which has any sort of sexual 
>>>> implication,
>>>> why
>>>> is time set aside during the school year to have class discussions 
>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>> truth about sex? If we are to be so sheltered as to never even learn 
>>>> the
>>>> first thing about sex until we are full-grown adults, why are our
>>>> parents
>>>> encouraged by their children's schools and just about everybody else 
>>>> who
>>>> knows anything about the education of children to teach their children
>>>> about
>>>> sex at an early age? We learn about sex, and our parents are encouraged
>>>> (and
>>>> often do) teach us about it because it is a fact of life; it is a part
>>>> of
>>>> the real world, whether you like it or not. Too often young people as
>>>> young
>>>> as 13 or 14 are peer-pressured to have sex or to say or do something
>>>> that
>>>> has a sexual implication. This is why I believe it is important that we
>>>> learn about sex at an early age; the good, the bad, and the ugly of it.
>>>> Then
>>>> we will be able to make a truly informed decision as to what we will do
>>>> in
>>>> regards to sex. Conversely, if we are sheltered, as you suggest, and
>>>> don't
>>>> learn the first thing about sex or similar subjects, we will not be
>>>> properly
>>>> prepared for the real world as it is today. While it is important that
>>>> parents teach their children morals, I believe it is equally important
>>>> that
>>>> they be honest with their children about what is really out there in 
>>>> the
>>>> real world and the consequences of getting involved in things like sex
>>>> at
>>>> an
>>>> early age. While I appreciate your efforts to keep the list free of
>>>> inappropriate discussion and protect me and our other high school
>>>> students
>>>> from inappropriate content, I feel that you are doing it to the 
>>>> extreme,
>>>> borderlining over-protectedness and sheltering. I joined this list as
>>>> well
>>>> as others knowing that I would be exposed to some parts of the real
>>>> world
>>>> which are somewhat adult in nature, but also knowing that I had the
>>>> option
>>>> not to comment on or follow those threads I felt uncomfortable with
>>>> reading,
>>>> and that there were many people on this list and others who are much
>>>> older
>>>> than I and therefore might talk about things I haven't been exposed to
>>>> as
>>>> much yet. But I don't have a problem with this, as I respect 
>>>> everybody's
>>>> right to freedom of speech. In short, the fact of my being a high 
>>>> school
>>>> student as well as a member of this list should not and (in my opinion)
>>>> does
>>>> not restrict the freedom of speech of any other member of this list to
>>>> discuss what he/she wants to discuss, as long as it remains on topic 
>>>> for
>>>> this list; that is, that it has something to do with blindness and/or
>>>> being
>>>> a student. If the moderator feels that the discussion is off-topic, he
>>>> is
>>>> the one whose job it is to tell whoever started the discussion. But 
>>>> just
>>>> don't use my age as support for your claim that something is
>>>> inappropriate
>>>> for this list.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:47 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>
>>>> Koby: this is off topic, especially since there are high schoolers on
>>>> here.
>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf 
>>>> of
>>>> Koby [kobycox at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:42 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>> What should I do If this girl wants to have sex when I see her?
>>>> Koby
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Arielle and all,
>>>>>    Jason is the love I thought I'd never have.  YEs, we get on each
>>>> other's nerves.  YEs, he argues with me sometimes, but people call him
>>>> no
>>>> good, bad, really stupid, whuatever you say they say it about him.  I
>>>> think
>>>> Jason has a sweet side to him.  I love Jason so much and we met in 
>>>> June.
>>>> His mom was able to pay for the flight, but I'm afraid she won't this
>>>> December or so.  I'm trying to make it easy for her to pay for it again
>>>> so
>>>> I
>>>> can be down there with him.  I want Jason to know that just because 
>>>> he's
>>>> blind, heart issues and all that, that doesn't mean that his life is
>>>> over.
>>>> HE can marry, he can have a relationship, he can have kids if he so
>>>> desires,
>>>> and he may engage in sex if that's whuat he wants.  Some men are 
>>>> nervous
>>>> about sex and relationships, even Jason.  But with the help of my
>>>> coaxing
>>>> and calm manner, he was able to enjoy himself with me.  At least he
>>>> doesn't
>>>> engage in the trade of child porn and other inappropriate things that
>>>> sighted men would engage in.  He has a good sense of right and wrong.
>>>> He
>>>> loves chocolate for breakfast. (hee hee), though I prefer eggs myself.
>>>> If
>>>> I
>>>> look back and turn the clock back, I see that I have not made a bad
>>>> choice
>>>> as some are led to believe.  Honestly, I have insecurity issues, and I
>>>> see
>>>> myself at fault for a stupid email I sent to his mother because I was
>>>> truly
>>>> upset at sommething he did that was really inappropriate and I don't
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> share with this list.  I love Jason no matter what he does to me or
>>>> whuaft
>>>> I
>>>> do to him.  All I can do is say that it's emotionally trying not having
>>>> Jason near me, but this relationship is good when the winds of good
>>>> fortune
>>>> blow in our direction.  Arielle, Im glad at least you have a good
>>>> boyfriend.
>>>> Btw, for all of us, how can I make up with Jason's family without
>>>> sending
>>>> an
>>>> email?  I really want to see him again, and supposedly his mom resents
>>>> me
>>>> for sending that email.  That's the only thing about the relationship
>>>> that
>>>> I
>>>> don't like very much.
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:01:32 -0600
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Cindy, I generally agree with you about keeping this list to
>>>>> blindness-related discussions. However, I do think long-distance
>>>>> dating issues like the one Koby brought up are perhaps more relevant
>>>>> to us blind students than they are for sighted students, especially
>>>>> those of us who are involved in the NFB.  This is because, for many
>>>>> reasons, some of us want to date other blind/NFB people and because
>>>>> our community is so spread out, we may often end up in similar
>>>>> situations where we have to decide if we want to enter a long-distance
>>>>> relationship with someone we know from this community. So I'd like to
>>>>> offer a brief response on-list and hope that others in similar
>>>>> situations might find it helpful.
>>>>> During college I was in a long-distance relationship with someone I
>>>>> met through NFB for about a year. In hindsight I do not regret that
>>>>> decision at all. I had fun, learned a lot and he and I are still
>>>>> friends. I will also say that parts of it were emotionally very hard
>>>>> to deal with--in my particular case an airplane ticket between my
>>>>> location and his cost nearly $500 and we did not see each other for
>>>>> five months, which was emotionally trying at times. I do not think I
>>>>> would do another long-distance relationship and my current boyfriend
>>>>> and I will be making an effort to ensure we will not have to be living
>>>>> in separate places for any length of time. However, again, I enjoyed
>>>>> the one experience I had overall and learned a lot from it. I think if
>>>>> you and this girl really like each other and you can find a way to see
>>>>> each other on a somewhat regular basis, there's no harm in trying and
>>>>> you can always decide later on to just be friends. However, it is
>>>>> something to give a little serious thought to before you make that
>>>>> kind of commitment. You also want to talk with her and make sure that
>>>>> the two of you have similar expectations for how serious of a
>>>>> relationship this will be and how often you will be able to see each
>>>>> other. It will be hard if one of you is much more enthused about the
>>>>> relationship than the other. But if the two of you are generally on
>>>>> the same page and are really committed to it, it can be fun.
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
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