[nabs-l] accessible phones

[Marc Workman]

Apologies, Arielle, if you meant what I'm about to say, but if you meant what you wrote, then you may be pleasantly surprised.

Arielle wrote,
> You can drag your finger around the screen until VoiceOver says what you need, and then touch
> the screen with a second finger (a "split tap") or tap your finger
> twice quickly on  the button to select it ("double-tap").

The description of the split tap is fine, but you do not need to double tap on the button. Once you bring focus to the desired element by flicking or dragging your finger over it, you can double tap anywhere on the screen. This is easier because you don't have to worry if your finger moves off the desired element slightly.

Arielle wrote,
> You can also flick the right-hand side of the screen to move the cursor from one
> screen element to the next.

I may be interpreting too literally here, but you can do the flicking anywhere on the screen, not only on the right hand side. What matters is the direction of the flick, right to left, left to right, up to down, down to up. You can do any of these flicks anywhere on the screen and it will have the same effect.

I've convinced at least half a dozen people with varying degrees of tech savviness to pick up iPhones, and none have regretted it so far. The touch screen only seems much more daunting than it actually is.

Best,

Marc
On 2012-09-15, at 2:10 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ashley,
> The iPhone screen reader, VoiceOver, helps with touch-screen
> navigation by voicing every button you touch. You can drag your finger
> around the screen until VoiceOver says what you need, and then touch
> the screen with a second finger (a "split tap") or tap your finger
> twice quickly on  the button to select it ("double-tap"). You can also
> flick the right-hand side of the screen to move the cursor from one
> screen element to the next. Once you have used the phone for a while,
> you will remember where many things are on the screen; for example,
> when I am on the home screen, "Phone" is in the lower left and
> "Messages" (for texting) is on the upper left.
> HTH,
> Arielle
> 
> On 9/15/12, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My phone reads all settings
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 21:56, "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> There were tons of menus that the ENV3 didn't read. It read contacts I
>>> think, but messages, a lot of the settings etc it wouldn't read. There was
>>> also no way to find out who texted you if you happened to miss the text.
>>> On 9/14/2012 7:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>> Tyler,
>>>> Oh, that is why the haven isn't completely accessible.
>>>> I know people who used the en V 3 and it seemed accessible. It would even
>>>> read you text messages and allow the user to text and read the menus so
>>>> you knew the missed calls.
>>>> Unfortunately, the EN V 3 is not produced anymore; I wanted to buy one
>>>> last time I needed a phone, and learned it was not produced.
>>>> 
>>>> I heard the haven isn't made anymore either. But if it is, gloria might
>>>> want to explore that option.
>>>> If you just need to make calls, you do not need all the menus read.
>>>> 
>>>> Ashley
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:58 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible phones
>>>> 
>>>> I know the Haven is, and I think that might be. But it's not really
>>>> "accessible." it reads the messages if you hit space, and it reads the
>>>> fact that you got a message as well as minimal prompts, but it doesn't
>>>> read much of anything else. I had an ENV3 for a while, and it worked the
>>>> same way.
>>>> On 9/12/2012 7:58 AM, Gloria G wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I am checking out phones. Has anyone heard of the LG My Touch Q? If so,
>>>>> is it accessible? I talked to the carrier which is Teen Mobil, but I
>>>>> have had situations in which the carrier will say something is
>>>>> accessible or has speech capabilities and they do not and vice versa.
>>>>> Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>> Gloria
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