[nabs-l] Need some help college issues

Sun Dec 1 23:48:35 UTC 2013

At last! Some sanity.At 02:29 PM 11/30/2013, Bridget Walker wrote:
>Hi Carly, Tyler, and all,
>
>I agree with Carly and Tyler. I am not about to go after anyone. I 
>am doing all I can to keep things small. I am having several 
>meetings with professors and administrators to get things back on 
>track. I would never take this so far as to call for reinforcements 
>unless I was really getting no where. It is not easy and sometimes I 
>feel like I am talking to a wall but, I am making progress.
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 30, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Tyler,
> >
> >        Can't this student try working it out with instructors 
> involved? Personally, I aggree. It's like atttacking something with 
> an A-bomb, those lawsuits.
> > Mellow out, guys!/2013, justin williams wrote:
> >> Where should she take it?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> >> Tyler
> >> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:53 AM
> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Need some help college issues
> >>
> >> Why is it that instead of working on alternative options, everyone jumps
> >> straight for a lawsuit? Maybe she has went through a ton of 
> options, but why
> >> not take it higher rather than say "o gawd nfb time lets sue lets sue lets
> >> sue o yeah lawsuit!"
> >> On 11/22/2013 4:49 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> >> > Bridget!
> >> > Good grief!
> >> > You've already gone the nice route, so now it's time to contact Chris
> >> Danielson, and get the NFB involved!
> >> > Can anyone say lawsuit?
> >> > I wouldn't reckomend suing unless you've exhausted all of your options,
> >> but it looks like you have!
> >> > Good grief!
> >> > Blessings, Joshua
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Bobbi Pompey
> >> > [pompey2010 at yahoo.com]
> >> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:54 AM
> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Need some help college issues
> >> >
> >> > This is ridiculous. Based on the info provided, you have spoken with DS
> >> and professors. And both haven given you I ignorant, 
> insensitive, rude, and
> >> most importantly illegal feedback. In my opinion this is the 
> proper time to
> >> work your way up the chain of command. Talk to the head of
> >> departments/colleges that the class falls under. Talk to the department
> >> chair over DS. And need be, talk to the Chanselor. Document 
> everything that
> >> had occurred and remind them of their legal obligations. I'm not 
> saying sue
> >> or threaten to sue them. But in my experiences, Judy saying the word
> >> "illegal" scares them because they don't want a lawsuit. Plus it lets them
> >> know that you know your rights.
> >> >
> >> > I've had similar situations and this is what I did. I hope this helps!
> >> >
> >> > Bobbi A. L. Pompey
> >> > (336) 988-6375
> >> > pompey2010 at yahoo.com
> >> > http://pompey2050.wix.com/bobbi-pompey
> >> >
> >> >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >> I have reached a point where I need all the help I can get. First it
> >> helps to have some background. My primary disability is blindness due to a
> >> TBI. I have another component to my condition which is spastic CP.
> >> >> So I am now a junior, an education major, and think I have it all. At
> >> least that's how the semester starts.
> >> >> I need to know what do I do if due to my secondary 
> disabilities that are
> >> not blindness professors either refuse to accommodate me all together or
> >> focus on one disability and not the other?
> >> >> My next question is in the area of equal access. I am all for 
> advocating
> >> for yourself in this area and using whatever you have to get the job done.
> >> >> One of my professors uses google sites and although I made 
> her along with
> >> DS aware of the accessibility problem I am still required to use 
> the site. I
> >> sent everyone the letter Sean sent the list with my explanation but they
> >> don't care.
> >> >> Now we move on to art. I'm taking a sculpture class nice and 
> tactile. The
> >> professor refuses to grade me because I'm blind and have CP. I 
> can't see and
> >> can't move my hands the way other people do. She said I receive 
> a pass fail
> >> for the class and am required to do everything but not for an 
> actual letter
> >> grade. She told me at the start I can see powerpoints. Ok no if I read
> >> Braille, have a guide dog, and get migraines when I use my eyes I don't
> >> think I can see. DS didn't even back me up I had to bring my eye report to
> >> the head of the art department to prove my disability. Let's add 
> in the part
> >> there is already documentation about my disability at DS.
> >> >> Finally we get to math. Let me say I knew math was going to be a
> >> challenge. My book is I not accessible on my math lab with jaws 15. The
> >> college wanted me to downgrade my screen reader and my IE 
> version so my math
> >> lab might work. I tested it with an older version of jaws and 
> windows seven
> >> it is not compatible as far spas I know. Bigger point I should not be
> >> downgrading my technology for a book.
> >> >> Then to have them say what is the big deal?
> >> >> We have an embosser on campus. We are lucky. I have Braille as an
> >> accommodation but, we need someone to Braille my tests because I can't
> >> that's not ok and DS is not trained. DS has brailled before and did well
> >> they just won't do it I guess a confidence thing. So I have to 
> take my tests
> >> with jaws. Jaws and math are not a good combo.
> >> >> I just want to know what do people think of all of this?
> >> >> I have met with as many resources on campus to reach a common 
> ground and
> >> I get nowhere.
> >> >> I have a year and a half left. I don't want it to be like this.
> >> >> I feel like I take five steps forward and ten steps back.
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Bridget
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
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> >> Take care,
> >> Ty
> >> http://tds-solutions.net
> >> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a 
> fool; he that
> >> dares not reason is a slave.
> >>
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