[nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with other blind folks

Tue Feb 19 06:54:36 UTC 2013

hello there,

I am in favor of the age checking, definitely, because the first thing losers are going to do is call you nuts if you don't check it.
I also believe on the statement, not for being judgmental, but as you said, for knowing what's coming around the corner.
facebook/twitter/whatever you have is worth spreading the word. after all, we just asked statements for a reason:)

Mauricio
On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I think I'll go with Blind Social Talk. It's general enough
> without being too broad, but also states its purpose clearly. The only
> thing I have to do now is create a file for the rules that will be
> sent out on a monthly basis, then I'll create the group itself, since
> that only takes a minute to do.
> there's one more thing I would like some opinions on, however. When a
> person joins the list, I will approve them, as I don't trust the
> system of just having Yahoo automatically approve everyone. I've seen
> what happens when groups get overrun by spammers. So, since this group
> is aimed at a target audience, and sensitive information is going to
> be shared, do you think it would be sensible for me to ask that each
> person write a brief statement about themselves before they're
> approved to join, just so I can get a feel for their motivations for
> joining, and their age? I don't want to seem overly paranoid, but the
> last thing we need is a bunch of trolls or people who are up to no
> good. No offense to anyone on this list, as I highly doubt such people
> are here to join, but I'm hoping that the word is spread beyond this
> list, and that others will hear of it. I'm also wondering where else I
> might spread the word, so that I can reach more people who might
> benefit. I thought about maybe creating a board topic on the zone BBS,
> but I'm a little weary about that, simply because, well, not everyone
> on that site is exactly trustworthy. Any thoughts would be
> appreciated.
> 
> On 2/19/13, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
>> i'd simply go for blind social because it allows more things to be thrown
>> into discussion and people won't go like hmmm i can't talk about this
>> because it isn't in the name of the list.
>> 
>> feel free to cc me on emails if you guys do take this off list.
>> 
>> Mauricio
>> On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:51 PM, "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Arielle,
>>> 
>>> I'm not Desiree, but I personally like Blind-Social or Blind-Social-Talk.
>>> Thoughts? Maybe at this point we should take this discussion off-list...
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
>>> Silverman
>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:47 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with
>>> other blind folks
>>> 
>>> Thanks Desiree for taking charge! Blind-social, blind-social-talk or
>>> blind-relationships all sound fine to  me.
>>> Arielle
>>> 
>>> On 2/18/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ashley and Mauricio,
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. We have to be careful here, as the list is publically
>>>> archived and it could be considered an "official" list of the
>>>> Federation; after all, it is the official list of NABS. Conversely,a
>>>> list like the one Desiree and others are talking about would be a
>>>> place where these topics can be discussed more freely.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mauricio
>>>> Almeida
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:17 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>>>> with other blind folks
>>>> 
>>>> well said.
>>>> noone is putting anyone down here.
>>>> go for the list:)
>>>> On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Carley,
>>>>> We were not putting him down. We were  just saying that another list
>>>> devoted to only social issues is better.
>>>>> David already spoke his mind and said we can sometimes discuss dating
>>>>> on
>>>> here, but it cannot get too far off track.
>>>>> I say go for creating the list and we can have more private
>>>>> conversations
>>>> there.
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:55 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>>>>> Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>>>>> with other blind folks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are we not ALL blind students? Isn't a potential YAHOO or other
>>>>> social forum, positioned  for each and every one of our  enrichment?
>>>>> Where is a sense of unity? Why are people being made to feel like
>>>>> some pariah, with some kind of disease,  simply for being emotionally
>>>>> unstable?  Indeed, People are well aware of how advice delivered via
>>>>> an On-line support forum, may be subject to thinking twice. I'm
>>>>> convinced of people's  being well aware of this.  We are talking
>>>>> about emotional crises, people!
>>>>> Is not investing too much in any of the Internet's resources not a
>>>>> given, anyway?
>>>>> Car, but
>>>>>> I think the list should be for support, not primarily for therapy.
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Desiree Oudinot
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:11 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>>>>>> with other blind folks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Since I was the person who  initially raised this suggestion, I
>>>>>> guess I'd better speak up.
>>>>>> While I do think this is a great idea, and would like to see it
>>>>>> happen, I'm not sure I'm the right person to even suggest it. Pardon
>>>>>> the pun, but I'm not so sure having the blind lead the blind is such
>>>>>> a good idea. To cut to the point, I'm not sure if it would be right
>>>>>> of me to moderate such a list when I know I would use it to air out
>>>>>> some of my own problems. I'm also not a psychologist, social worker
>>>>>> or any other mental health worker. I only bring this up because I'm
>>>>>> not sure how formal this group would have to be, and I don't want
>>>>>> any
>>>> trouble.
>>>>>> My only other hang-up is that I'm not very good at thinking up
>>>>>> clever names, and I'm drawing a blank as to what this hypothetical
>>>>>> list should be called. I'm sure others may have some suggestions,
>>>>>> though, so that's just a minor inconvenience.
>>>>>> So, what do you all think? Would you want the list to be moderated
>>>>>> and ran by a trained mental health worker? Would you feel
>>>>>> uncomfortable with a moderator who used the list for its intended
>>>>>> purpose, rather than just sitting in the background and dealing with
>>>>>> problems, both tech-related and within the list's members? Let me
>>>>>> know, and I'll think about it some more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I can moderate, but would prefer someone who is more tech-savvy
>>>>>>> than I to actually set up the list initially.
>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/18/13, Loren Wakefield <theweird1 at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It would be a great idea.  I don't know how those groups work.
>>>>>>>> But I suppose one could find out.  However, I am not sure that I
>>>>>>>> would have the time to be its moderator.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>>>>>>>> Mihalakis
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:40 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list;
>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>>>>>>>> with other blind folks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Great idea! Unfortunately, i am not qualified to set up, or
>>>>>>>> moderate the thing, although it is a great idea.At 01:31 PM
>>>>>>>> 2/18/2013, Arielle Silverman
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> A while back some of us talked about creating a list on
>>>>>>>>> YahooGroups or GoogleGroups where blind students and mentors
>>>>>>>>> could talk about sexuality and social issues. I am wondering if
>>>>>>>>> we should go ahead and create this list to be a separate place
>>>>>>>>> from NABS-L and one where the topic is a bit more relaxed so that
>>>>>>>>> people could post about relationship issues, family difficulties
>>>>>>>>> etc. If the list is hosted on YahooGroups, the archives will be
>>>>>>>>> private so no one who is not subscribed will be able to read the
>>>>>>>>> content of the list (and GoogleGroups might be that way too; I'd
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> to check).
>>>>>>>>> The NFB lists tend to be a little strict about topic since they
>>>>>>>>> are publicly archived and since they are intended to be about a
>>>>>>>>> very specific topic. However that doesn't mean we can't create a
>>>>>>>>> separate list that is more of a support group rather than a place
>>>>>>>>> to obtain information.
>>>>>>>>> Does someone want to go ahead and do this?
>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>> 
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