[nabs-l] giving a presentation

Thu Jan 3 17:14:04 UTC 2013

Hi, all,
  This kind of goes back to a point that I think bears mentioning.
Sometimes, more often than some of us (especially lots of us who have
gone through decent training) would like, we need help.  Yes, maybe
it's possible to always walk a mile in the pouring snow to your bus
stop, maybe a superstar traveler can figure out a way to cross a
three-or-four street intersection without help (I've only seen one of
those, in Midtown Manhattan, and I had no qualms about asking someone
to help me across because I couldn't figure out what was going on just
by listening to traffic.)  Heck, I don't think any single person can
do anything and everything another single person, blind or sighted or
what have you, can do.  I can't drive (yet), play in the NBA or be an
airline pilot.  Heck, in very large groups, I can't call on people
with questions as efficiently as I could, were I able to see.  What of
it?  Just because something technically works (like having people tell
me their names before they ask questions, which I totally do when it's
most efficient to do so), that doesn't always mean it's the best way.
It's totally okay to ask for help, and utilize it whenever you feel
like it makes you more efficient, so long as it's on your terms and
you do things without it enough so you know  that you are capable of
managing solo when you have to.  That's my opinion, anyway, take it
for what it's worth.
  Best,
Kirt

On 1/3/13, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sophie and All,
> As one who has spent the past few years presenting to various groups
> in schools, I personally just have the teacher call on the student
> with their hand raised. It's a good idea showing that we as blind
> people can do everything that sighted people can do, but I think it's
> also important to accept help when it makes sense. I've been at
> presentations given by blind people and where people in the audience
> call out their questions. While I think it works, I'm not sure if it's
> the most efficient way to do things.
> Patrick
>
> On 1/3/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> it may have been that the teacher told them to raise their hands to give
>> you
>> respect, and the teacher planned on calling on them. with young children,
>> things need to be consistant. they get confused when they are told to do
>> things that are one way for the teacher, and another for another person.
>> this is y they don't really start changing classes a lot until they r a
>> little older. i hope that makes sense. young children r more likely to
>> listen to their teacher. so if the teacher told them to raise their hands
>> before you came, they will probabley listen to the teacher.
>>
>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 23:03, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sophie and all,
>>>
>>> If you decide to use the method of having them call out their names
>>> before you call on them, make it very clear what you are going to do.
>>> I attempted to do this a couple weeks ago when I was presenting at a
>>> school, and the kids still raised their hands and waited for the
>>> teacher to call on them.  Either I did not make myself clear about
>>> what I wanted(entirely possible), or they were too young to understand
>>> what I wanted.  Middle schoolers should be able to handle it though.
>>> Good luck with your presentation!
>>>
>>> On 1/2/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In the speaches that i give, i include that fact that not all blind
>>>> people
>>>> behave like me, and that i am both blind and autistic. i also go on to
>>>> explain that blind people can and do talk. that most of my behaviors r
>>>> do
>>>> to
>>>> autism, and a d h d. not blindness. this way they know. than i ask if
>>>> there
>>>> r questions.
>>>>
>>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 21:54, christopher nusbaum
>>>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep. I agree with that. Although it's good to show sighted kids that
>>>>> blind people can do anything that they can do, it's also important, I
>>>>> think, to show them that everybody needs some help sometimes and that
>>>>> blind people are just as capable of choosing what help we need when we
>>>>> need it as they are; in other words, We are interdependent, but not
>>>>> helpless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sophie,
>>>>>> I would say do whatever is most efficient. If it's practical, just
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> people in the room call out their names if they have a question, like
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> already been suggested. Otherwise, if there are so many people in the
>>>>>> room to make that approach inefficient, I would suggest just asking
>>>>>> someone to help you call on people. No need to be rebellious Lee
>>>>>> independent. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i do that too. i have my assistant call on someone with their hand
>>>>>>> raised, or i have people call out their names. but i have to have
>>>>>>> help..
>>>>>>> i am going to see about having bell at the end of the ils, that will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> tone and color coded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 21:00, "Jason Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've used the classic convention method of having someone say their
>>>>>>>> name instead of raising their hand and this usually seems to work,
>>>>>>>> depending on the room size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with the presentation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Jason Meddaugh
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>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sophie Trist"
>>>>>>>> <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "nabs" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:18 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] giving a presentation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear NABSters,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have to give a presentation at a middle school chock full of
>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>> students next Tuesday. It's not a powerpoint, just a speech. But
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the end of the speech, I'm going to take some questions. I could
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> a sighted person help me with calling on people, but considering
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> moral of the speech is that blind kids can do anything sighted
>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>> can, I was wondering if there was a way I could do this by myself.
>>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>> help would be majorly appreciated. Good luck to everyone as they
>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>> their second semester!
>>>>>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Julie McG
>>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, National Federation of the Blind
>>> of Missouri recording secretary,
>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>> and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes for the Blind
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>> life."
>>> John 3:16
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