[nabs-l] giving a presentation

Fri Jan 4 00:59:25 UTC 2013

I have used the NFB convention method several times with middle and
high  school kids and never had any problems or found it less
efficient than hand-raising. Most of the time only one child spoke up
at a time anyway so the name recognition wasn't even necessary. This
was in typical classrooms, so it might be tougher if you are speaking
to an assembly of the entire school.
Arielle

On 1/3/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all,
>   This kind of goes back to a point that I think bears mentioning.
> Sometimes, more often than some of us (especially lots of us who have
> gone through decent training) would like, we need help.  Yes, maybe
> it's possible to always walk a mile in the pouring snow to your bus
> stop, maybe a superstar traveler can figure out a way to cross a
> three-or-four street intersection without help (I've only seen one of
> those, in Midtown Manhattan, and I had no qualms about asking someone
> to help me across because I couldn't figure out what was going on just
> by listening to traffic.)  Heck, I don't think any single person can
> do anything and everything another single person, blind or sighted or
> what have you, can do.  I can't drive (yet), play in the NBA or be an
> airline pilot.  Heck, in very large groups, I can't call on people
> with questions as efficiently as I could, were I able to see.  What of
> it?  Just because something technically works (like having people tell
> me their names before they ask questions, which I totally do when it's
> most efficient to do so), that doesn't always mean it's the best way.
> It's totally okay to ask for help, and utilize it whenever you feel
> like it makes you more efficient, so long as it's on your terms and
> you do things without it enough so you know  that you are capable of
> managing solo when you have to.  That's my opinion, anyway, take it
> for what it's worth.
>   Best,
> Kirt
>
> On 1/3/13, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sophie and All,
>> As one who has spent the past few years presenting to various groups
>> in schools, I personally just have the teacher call on the student
>> with their hand raised. It's a good idea showing that we as blind
>> people can do everything that sighted people can do, but I think it's
>> also important to accept help when it makes sense. I've been at
>> presentations given by blind people and where people in the audience
>> call out their questions. While I think it works, I'm not sure if it's
>> the most efficient way to do things.
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 1/3/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> it may have been that the teacher told them to raise their hands to give
>>> you
>>> respect, and the teacher planned on calling on them. with young
>>> children,
>>> things need to be consistant. they get confused when they are told to do
>>> things that are one way for the teacher, and another for another person.
>>> this is y they don't really start changing classes a lot until they r a
>>> little older. i hope that makes sense. young children r more likely to
>>> listen to their teacher. so if the teacher told them to raise their
>>> hands
>>> before you came, they will probabley listen to the teacher.
>>>
>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>
>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 23:03, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sophie and all,
>>>>
>>>> If you decide to use the method of having them call out their names
>>>> before you call on them, make it very clear what you are going to do.
>>>> I attempted to do this a couple weeks ago when I was presenting at a
>>>> school, and the kids still raised their hands and waited for the
>>>> teacher to call on them.  Either I did not make myself clear about
>>>> what I wanted(entirely possible), or they were too young to understand
>>>> what I wanted.  Middle schoolers should be able to handle it though.
>>>> Good luck with your presentation!
>>>>
>>>> On 1/2/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In the speaches that i give, i include that fact that not all blind
>>>>> people
>>>>> behave like me, and that i am both blind and autistic. i also go on to
>>>>> explain that blind people can and do talk. that most of my behaviors r
>>>>> do
>>>>> to
>>>>> autism, and a d h d. not blindness. this way they know. than i ask if
>>>>> there
>>>>> r questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 21:54, christopher nusbaum
>>>>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. I agree with that. Although it's good to show sighted kids that
>>>>>> blind people can do anything that they can do, it's also important, I
>>>>>> think, to show them that everybody needs some help sometimes and that
>>>>>> blind people are just as capable of choosing what help we need when
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> need it as they are; in other words, We are interdependent, but not
>>>>>> helpless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sophie,
>>>>>>> I would say do whatever is most efficient. If it's practical, just
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> people in the room call out their names if they have a question,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> already been suggested. Otherwise, if there are so many people in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> room to make that approach inefficient, I would suggest just asking
>>>>>>> someone to help you call on people. No need to be rebellious Lee
>>>>>>> independent. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Lavonya Gardner
>>>>>>> <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i do that too. i have my assistant call on someone with their hand
>>>>>>>> raised, or i have people call out their names. but i have to have
>>>>>>>> help..
>>>>>>>> i am going to see about having bell at the end of the ils, that
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> tone and color coded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 21:00, "Jason Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've used the classic convention method of having someone say
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> name instead of raising their hand and this usually seems to work,
>>>>>>>>> depending on the room size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with the presentation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Jason Meddaugh
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>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sophie Trist"
>>>>>>>>> <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "nabs" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:18 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] giving a presentation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear NABSters,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have to give a presentation at a middle school chock full of
>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>> students next Tuesday. It's not a powerpoint, just a speech. But
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> the end of the speech, I'm going to take some questions. I could
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> a sighted person help me with calling on people, but considering
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> moral of the speech is that blind kids can do anything sighted
>>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>>> can, I was wondering if there was a way I could do this by
>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>> help would be majorly appreciated. Good luck to everyone as they
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> their second semester!
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julie McG
>>>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, National Federation of the Blind
>>>> of Missouri recording secretary,
>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>> and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes for the Blind
>>>>
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>> life."
>>>> John 3:16
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