[nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?

Misty Dawn Bradley mistydbradley at gmail.com
Sun Jan 6 18:23:53 UTC 2013 

Hi,
I don't have any old Apple chargers or connectors, since this will be my 
first I device, although it is crazy that they changed the connector after 
so many versions using the same one.
Misty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "christopher nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?


> They put a new connector in with the iPhone five, so if you have an
> old Apple connector and get an iPhone five, you will need to change
> connectors.
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Cindy <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now that I know that you are out of contract, I would bet that you could 
>> find a used 4s for cheaper than $400. Be careful though as people often 
>> sell stolen phones. If you want to go that route, ask people you know 
>> first. And I can offer you other advice if you start looking for online 
>> options. Does Cricket sell a warrantee with the phone? If not, look 
>> around for a used one.
>>
>> The differences in the 5 are mostly visual. If you have a cell phone 
>> provider that supports LTE, then the 5 might be worth it because it is a 
>> lot faster than 3g. Also, if you continue to use Apple products, you 
>> might be able to keep your charger and have an extra. However if you buy 
>> the 4s, and if down the road you bbuy another iPhone, you will have to 
>> use a new charger, and adapters from the old charger to the new one are 
>> expensive. But to me, I've seen the same intermittent lagging issues with 
>> VoiceOver on the 5.
>>
>>
>> Cindy Bennett
>>
>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> For me, I wouldn't be on a contract, because I am getting the phone with 
>>> Cricket, which is a prepaid cell phone service with no contract. Cricket 
>>> sells both the IPhone 4S and the IPhone 5, but they are selling the 
>>> IPhone 4S for $399 and the IPhone 5 for $499. Either way I would not be 
>>> obligated to be in a contract, so I would be purchasing the phone, but I 
>>> wouldn't necessarily have to stay with Cricket for any specified length 
>>> of time. That is why I am asking about the differences in the features 
>>> or which phone is better, because if I pay $399 I can get the IPhone 4S, 
>>> but if I pay $499, I can get the IPhone 5 which is $100 more than the 
>>> IPhone 4S.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Misty
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Workman" 
>>> <mworkman.lists at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 11:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> The point I am making is that you did not just pay $229 for your new 
>>>> iPhone. At that price, I'm pretty sure you bought a new contract. 
>>>> Unless you bought an unlocked used phone and are on a pay-as-you-go 
>>>> plan, you are locked into a contract, and you have to factor that into 
>>>> the cost of the phone. Even a free iPhone 4 is only available on a 
>>>> contract, so I'm pretty sure your iPhone was purchased as part of a 
>>>> contract renewal. In other words, you paid $229 up front plus whatever 
>>>> you must pay per month for the next couple of years. The price you pay 
>>>> up front is not the real cost of the phone; the real price is the cost 
>>>> up front plus the cost of the entire contract. If you factor the entire 
>>>> cost of the contract in, it doesn't make a lot of sense to go with the 
>>>> cheaper phone, unless of course an extra $100 up front is a significant 
>>>> financial hardship.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm wrong and you are not on some sort of contract, let me know. It 
>>>> would surprise me if you were able to get a brand new iPhone 4S without 
>>>> a contract for $200.
>>>>
>>>> As for purchasing the iPhone 5, there is also the fact that a newer 
>>>> phone will almost certainly last longer and will have a higher resale 
>>>> value.
>>>>
>>>> From my perspective, I think it always makes sense to pay the extra 
>>>> money up front for a newer phone if you are getting the phone on a 
>>>> contract, assuming this is financially possible, and this includes 
>>>> renewing contracts as well.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>> On 2013-01-05, at 8:41 PM, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marc,
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly, I was surprised that iOS 6 ran on the 3GS. I agree that iOS
>>>>> 7 will probably not run on that phone whenever that version comes out.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the discussion of "iPhone 4S vs. iPhone 5,) I purchased my 4S
>>>>> after the 5 had come out. Marc, your statement below is probably 
>>>>> correct if
>>>>> you are buying the phone and a new contract at the same time. This 
>>>>> would
>>>>> also depend on which carrier you are using and what their prices are. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> already had a contract with Verizon before I purchased my iPhone, so 
>>>>> it was
>>>>> not as expensive as it would have been had I switched carriers or 
>>>>> bought a
>>>>> new contract along with buying my iPhone. Along with Verizon's upgrade 
>>>>> fee
>>>>> of $30, my iPhone 4S was $199. So, I paid $229 plus tax for it in 
>>>>> total. I
>>>>> would recommend doing this, as most of the changes made in the iPhone 
>>>>> 5 are
>>>>> visual in nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc 
>>>>> Workman
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:29 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Arielle is right that, besides an overall redesign of the 
>>>>> phone, the
>>>>> biggest changes are a larger screen and a somewhat better camera. 
>>>>> However,
>>>>> there are also processor and ram improvements that will future proof 
>>>>> the 5
>>>>> more than the 4S.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something to think about is that if you are buying the phone on a 
>>>>> contract,
>>>>> then the real cost of the phone is roughly $2000. The money you pay up 
>>>>> front
>>>>> is the cost of the phone after it is heavily subsidized. The monthly 
>>>>> phone
>>>>> bill is the real cost of the phone, and it is how the phone companies 
>>>>> make
>>>>> money off you. So the difference is not $100 versus $200, it is $2000 
>>>>> over 2
>>>>> years versus $2100 over 2 years. I think when you think about it in 
>>>>> this
>>>>> way, it makes more sense to shell out the extra hundred up front, 
>>>>> unless of
>>>>> course this would cause a serious financial hardship. This point only
>>>>> applies, however, if you're buying the phone on a contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple is very willing to stop supporting older phones. I'll be quite
>>>>> surprised if IOS 7 runs on the 3G s. There are features of IOS 6 that 
>>>>> are
>>>>> already not available on the 3G s or even the 4. So for that hundred
>>>>> dollars, you're essentially buying at least an extra year of life for 
>>>>> your
>>>>> phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, if you sell your phone in 2 years or so, you'll get more for 
>>>>> the 5,
>>>>> perhaps even $100 more.
>>>>>
>>>>> So while I wouldn't recommend the 5 over the 4S for 
>>>>> voiceover/accessibility
>>>>> reasons, I would recommend spending the extra hundred if you can 
>>>>> afford it
>>>>> for a bunch of other reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-01-05, at 6:52 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Misty,
>>>>>> I have a 4S, but my sister's boyfriend, who is very techie, says the
>>>>>> most significant improvements in the iPhone 5 are in the screen and
>>>>>> camera. So it sounds to me like it's probably not worth the $100
>>>>>> extra, unless you care about photo quality.
>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/5/13, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I am planning to get an IPhone at the end of this month, and with
>>>>>>> Cricket I have the option of a 4S or a 5, although the 5 is $100 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>> than the 4S.
>>>>>>> Have any of you noticed any differences between the IPhone 4S and 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> IPhone 5, either good or bad? What are your experiences with both? I
>>>>>>> have looked at reviews for both, and, other than a faster chip, some
>>>>>>> changes in the size and the type of charger it uses to charge, and
>>>>>>> better screen and camera/video recording capabilities, a lot of 
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> specs seem to be about the same. I am trying to decide whether the
>>>>>>> extra $100 is worth spending for the 5 or if I am better off with 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cheaper 4S. I will most likely go in to the store and see if they
>>>>>>> will let me look at both, but I am just wondering what the
>>>>>>> experiences are of those who have used either phone as a voiceover 
>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Misty
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