[nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?

Sun Jan 6 19:58:28 UTC 2013

Hi,
Also, they have adaptors now that you can use the older connectors to adapt 
them to the new lightning adaptor, although you would have to pay extra for 
the adaptor. I don't have any other Apple devices though, so I would only 
need the charger that comes with my new IPhone I think.
Thanks,
Misty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirt" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?

> Chris,
> Of course you are right about the new Apple dock connector… But, I think, 
> since new chargers come with each new phone, that is kind of irrelevant… 
> Unless you want an extra charger for some reason, which I suppose could be 
> valid. The only reason I didn't upgrade to the iPhone five was that I was 
> already locked into a contract with the four ass, and it wasn't time for 
> me to get a contract renewal and upgrade yet. Besides, if my iPhone 4S can 
> hold out for a little more than six months, I will be able to get a phone 
> that is even more future proof then the five. :-)
>
> So, to the original poster, I guess it's a question of how long you want 
> to be able to use your phone. If you want something which will be more 
> current in a couple of years, get the five. The odds are that it will be 
> supportive longer by Apple, and be more up to date with the future 
> improvement in iOS than the iPhone for S would be. However, if you're more 
> concerned about your budget, the for S works fine, and will probably 
> satisfy you for a couple years or so if you don't need all the latest 
> bells and whistles.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Mauricio Almeida 
> <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello there,
>>
>> I have had the iPhone 4s for a few months before migrating to the five, 
>> and I can agree with katherine here, voice over indeed is faster on the 
>> five.
>> It also comes down to internet, as she mentioned.
>> My argument for this kind of situation though is that if you buy the 
>> five,  you will be able to use apps and so on longer.
>> remember when you tried running apps on  mountain lion and they were not 
>> compatible? if they do something like this on whatever new IOS is coming 
>> out soon, things might be slower on the 4s side of things.
>> This is just speculating, as i have not compared processors on both 
>> phones as of yet as I was on vacation, but it is something to think about 
>> nonetheless.
>>
>> Mauricio
>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 11:57 AM, christopher nusbaum 
>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They put a new connector in with the iPhone five, so if you have an
>>> old Apple connector and get an iPhone five, you will need to change
>>> connectors.
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Cindy <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that I know that you are out of contract, I would bet that you 
>>>> could find a used 4s for cheaper than $400. Be careful though as people 
>>>> often sell stolen phones. If you want to go that route, ask people you 
>>>> know first. And I can offer you other advice if you start looking for 
>>>> online options. Does Cricket sell a warrantee with the phone? If not, 
>>>> look around for a used one.
>>>>
>>>> The differences in the 5 are mostly visual. If you have a cell phone 
>>>> provider that supports LTE, then the 5 might be worth it because it is 
>>>> a lot faster than 3g. Also, if you continue to use Apple products, you 
>>>> might be able to keep your charger and have an extra. However if you 
>>>> buy the 4s, and if down the road you bbuy another iPhone, you will have 
>>>> to use a new charger, and adapters from the old charger to the new one 
>>>> are expensive. But to me, I've seen the same intermittent lagging 
>>>> issues with VoiceOver on the 5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Bennett
>>>>
>>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley 
>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> For me, I wouldn't be on a contract, because I am getting the phone 
>>>>> with Cricket, which is a prepaid cell phone service with no contract. 
>>>>> Cricket sells both the IPhone 4S and the IPhone 5, but they are 
>>>>> selling the IPhone 4S for $399 and the IPhone 5 for $499. Either way I 
>>>>> would not be obligated to be in a contract, so I would be purchasing 
>>>>> the phone, but I wouldn't necessarily have to stay with Cricket for 
>>>>> any specified length of time. That is why I am asking about the 
>>>>> differences in the features or which phone is better, because if I pay 
>>>>> $399 I can get the IPhone 4S, but if I pay $499, I can get the IPhone 
>>>>> 5 which is $100 more than the IPhone 4S.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Misty
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Workman" 
>>>>> <mworkman.lists at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 11:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point I am making is that you did not just pay $229 for your new 
>>>>>> iPhone. At that price, I'm pretty sure you bought a new contract. 
>>>>>> Unless you bought an unlocked used phone and are on a pay-as-you-go 
>>>>>> plan, you are locked into a contract, and you have to factor that 
>>>>>> into the cost of the phone. Even a free iPhone 4 is only available on 
>>>>>> a contract, so I'm pretty sure your iPhone was purchased as part of a 
>>>>>> contract renewal. In other words, you paid $229 up front plus 
>>>>>> whatever you must pay per month for the next couple of years. The 
>>>>>> price you pay up front is not the real cost of the phone; the real 
>>>>>> price is the cost up front plus the cost of the entire contract. If 
>>>>>> you factor the entire cost of the contract in, it doesn't make a lot 
>>>>>> of sense to go with the cheaper phone, unless of course an extra $100 
>>>>>> up front is a significant financial hardship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm wrong and you are not on some sort of contract, let me know. 
>>>>>> It would surprise me if you were able to get a brand new iPhone 4S 
>>>>>> without a contract for $200.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for purchasing the iPhone 5, there is also the fact that a newer 
>>>>>> phone will almost certainly last longer and will have a higher resale 
>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my perspective, I think it always makes sense to pay the extra 
>>>>>> money up front for a newer phone if you are getting the phone on a 
>>>>>> contract, assuming this is financially possible, and this includes 
>>>>>> renewing contracts as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>> On 2013-01-05, at 8:41 PM, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frankly, I was surprised that iOS 6 ran on the 3GS. I agree that iOS
>>>>>>> 7 will probably not run on that phone whenever that version comes 
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the discussion of "iPhone 4S vs. iPhone 5,) I purchased my 4S
>>>>>>> after the 5 had come out. Marc, your statement below is probably 
>>>>>>> correct if
>>>>>>> you are buying the phone and a new contract at the same time. This 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> also depend on which carrier you are using and what their prices 
>>>>>>> are. I
>>>>>>> already had a contract with Verizon before I purchased my iPhone, so 
>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>> not as expensive as it would have been had I switched carriers or 
>>>>>>> bought a
>>>>>>> new contract along with buying my iPhone. Along with Verizon's 
>>>>>>> upgrade fee
>>>>>>> of $30, my iPhone 4S was $199. So, I paid $229 plus tax for it in 
>>>>>>> total. I
>>>>>>> would recommend doing this, as most of the changes made in the 
>>>>>>> iPhone 5 are
>>>>>>> visual in nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc 
>>>>>>> Workman
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:29 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] IPhone 4S vs. IPhone 5: Experiences?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Arielle is right that, besides an overall redesign of the 
>>>>>>> phone, the
>>>>>>> biggest changes are a larger screen and a somewhat better camera. 
>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>> there are also processor and ram improvements that will future proof 
>>>>>>> the 5
>>>>>>> more than the 4S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something to think about is that if you are buying the phone on a 
>>>>>>> contract,
>>>>>>> then the real cost of the phone is roughly $2000. The money you pay 
>>>>>>> up front
>>>>>>> is the cost of the phone after it is heavily subsidized. The monthly 
>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>> bill is the real cost of the phone, and it is how the phone 
>>>>>>> companies make
>>>>>>> money off you. So the difference is not $100 versus $200, it is 
>>>>>>> $2000 over 2
>>>>>>> years versus $2100 over 2 years. I think when you think about it in 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> way, it makes more sense to shell out the extra hundred up front, 
>>>>>>> unless of
>>>>>>> course this would cause a serious financial hardship. This point 
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> applies, however, if you're buying the phone on a contract.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple is very willing to stop supporting older phones. I'll be quite
>>>>>>> surprised if IOS 7 runs on the 3G s. There are features of IOS 6 
>>>>>>> that are
>>>>>>> already not available on the 3G s or even the 4. So for that hundred
>>>>>>> dollars, you're essentially buying at least an extra year of life 
>>>>>>> for your
>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, if you sell your phone in 2 years or so, you'll get more for 
>>>>>>> the 5,
>>>>>>> perhaps even $100 more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So while I wouldn't recommend the 5 over the 4S for 
>>>>>>> voiceover/accessibility
>>>>>>> reasons, I would recommend spending the extra hundred if you can 
>>>>>>> afford it
>>>>>>> for a bunch of other reasons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2013-01-05, at 6:52 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Misty,
>>>>>>>> I have a 4S, but my sister's boyfriend, who is very techie, says 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> most significant improvements in the iPhone 5 are in the screen and
>>>>>>>> camera. So it sounds to me like it's probably not worth the $100
>>>>>>>> extra, unless you care about photo quality.
>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/5/13, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I am planning to get an IPhone at the end of this month, and with
>>>>>>>>> Cricket I have the option of a 4S or a 5, although the 5 is $100 
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> than the 4S.
>>>>>>>>> Have any of you noticed any differences between the IPhone 4S and 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> IPhone 5, either good or bad? What are your experiences with both? 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have looked at reviews for both, and, other than a faster chip, 
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> changes in the size and the type of charger it uses to charge, and
>>>>>>>>> better screen and camera/video recording capabilities, a lot of 
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> specs seem to be about the same. I am trying to decide whether the
>>>>>>>>> extra $100 is worth spending for the 5 or if I am better off with 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> cheaper 4S. I will most likely go in to the store and see if they
>>>>>>>>> will let me look at both, but I am just wondering what the
>>>>>>>>> experiences are of those who have used either phone as a voiceover 
>>>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Misty
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