[nabs-l] in class writing

Fri Jan 11 17:39:03 UTC 2013

Hi Ashley
By the way, that is my middle name. But i use a blue tooth keyboard to type. I can use the on screen, but i do better as a touch typest.  my w p m is 50   with 1 hand. only one of my hands work. so i do better with the external. but the on screen is better for maybe just 1 or 2 words, but that is just how i do it. u may find that the on screen is better for you. 

NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE 

On Jan 10, 2013, at 23:10, "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Lavonya,
> nice that you have an ipad and laptop. do you use an external keyboard or use the screen?
> I might get one for a present. an ipad may be a good portable way for writing in class or in a situation where I need something portable to write on. If using an ipad, how do you get your writing to the professor? email?
> Also, are you able to save the documents as Word files or rich text format?
> Most professors want Microsoft word if possible.
> 
> That's nice an ipad works for you.
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Lavonya Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:47 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] in class writing
> 
> i just use my iPad, and or laptop. but i sit somewhere close to the teacher, in case they want to see if i am taking notes, or doing the written assignment. this way, there is no question about what i am really doing. i use zoom text on my laptop, and the print on my iPad is so huge, that a teacher can see it, from a pretty good distance.
> 
> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
> 
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 16:15, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ashley and all:
>> I agree with everything that has been said on this thread. I would
>> just like to add a few pointers.
>> In college, in addition to purchasing paper folders and binders, I
>> also bought about three or four thumb drives. Depending on the
>> professor, I might have a thumb drive for just hat course. Most
>> college have Wifi everywhere, so if you have a laptop in class
>> assignments should never be a problem. However, you have to have a
>> plan and discuss it with your professor beforehand. I had an Italian
>> class, where the teacher would sometimes write the quiz questions on
>> the board. Instead of making me go to the ODS office, she would email
>> me the quiz right before class, and I would download it once I got
>> into the classroom. As it was a foreign language, and depending on the
>> quiz, I'd sometimes take that file, put it in my Braille Note and
>> answer the questions. I'd then email it to her right away, and would
>> be done along with everyone else in class.
>> If you are doing an in-class writing assignment, part of the
>> educational challenge is to do it in a short amount of time. So, it is
>> not really fair to have an in-class writing assignment, take it home,
>> complete it, and then send it to the professor. Instead, if you do not
>> have a laptop, I suggest writing it in your braille note, saving it in
>> your thumb drive, and giving that to your professor. Otherwise, most
>> professors are ok with you emailing things as soon as possible, with
>> the understanding that the assignment was completed during class.
>> In most colleges, students have their own laptops, and at least a
>> handful will bring them to class. So, when it comes to peer-review,
>> most of the time, the professors will announce that it is a planned
>> activity for a given class. In that case I have done one of two
>> things.
>> 1. I know that other students bring laptops and pair up with one of
>> them. We exchange files via email or thumb drive, and do the editing.
>> 2. I notify the professor ahead of time, if they do not allow
>> electronics in the classroom, my dilemma, and we figure out a
>> solution. that has involved, emailing the assignment to a student
>> ahead of time, bringing a print copy and them sending me an electronic
>> copy, or simply lifting the electronics band for that particular
>> assignment.
>> Whatever you choose to do, discuss it with the professor. It is not
>> their responsibility to figure out your accommodations for you. You
>> are not their only student. So, have a candid conversation during
>> which you bring up these scenarios and together you figure out a
>> course of action. As blind students who need accommodations, we must
>> always keep in mind that we have to take responsibility for our own
>> education. While in a perfect world everything would be accessible,
>> and everyone would think of the barriers we might face during a
>> particular class activity and justify for it, that is not the way it
>> works. Here, I'd also like to add a note about always, always abiding
>> by the honor code. Professors put a lot of trust in us when they allow
>> us to use technologies which most of them do not understand, in order
>> for us to have access to the educational materials we need. So, it is
>> important, that as responsible, mature adults, we always abide by the
>> honor code, and are ethical in the decisions we make when doing our
>> academic work. There should never be a question whether accommodations
>> compromise academic integrity, and unfortunately the question does
>> arise on occasion. And in the long run, that hurts the entire disabled
>> student population, and entities will take the few instances where
>> accommodations were used to violate academic integrity as a reason why
>> accommodations should not be granted. Furthermore, if a student uses
>> their accommodations to cheat, if they are caught they now have a
>> permanent blemish on their academic record. But even if they are not,
>> that student is not actually learning, and so what is the point of
>> paying sometimes, hundreds of thousands of dollars to attend an
>> educational institution and then squander away the opportunity to
>> learn?
>> 
>> Ok, that's my rant for the day.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/9/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Laptops are the easiest way to go.  We did the same sort of thing with
>>> in class writings and peer critiques in a history class I had, and
>>> having my partner just look at my screen worked great.  If not then if
>>> your professor permits computer use maybe you could save the writing
>>> to a flashdrive as a text file and have someone else with a laptop
>>> peer review it on their machine?  Then you could also hand that drive
>>> to the teacher and not have to worry about remembering to email it in
>>> or do anything with it later.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> On 1/9/13, Lisa E Roszyk <rosz1878 at fredonia.edu> wrote:
>>>> If thbere is in class writing Iuse my laptop if Iknow its going to be
>>>> something Iwont have enough time to finishb in class Iwait until ikm back
>>>> in the dorm then email it to the teacher if its a peer edit project it
>>>> depen.ds on the subject but on.e thing Ihave done is find a partner and
>>>> get
>>>> the ok to do the work out side of class with them generally typing over
>>>> skype or google doc is great you can type and edit automatically on each
>>>> others documents and Ihave foun.d jaws works ok with it.
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, christopher nusbaum
>>>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> What about peer editing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> As for me, I usually type it on my laptop and then email it to the
>>>> professor using Wifi. Also, if the professor needs access to the writing
>>>> in
>>>> class, if you are using a laptop, you can have your instructor look at
>>>> the
>>>> screen. If you are doing writing as a group, you can type things out and
>>>> let your group members look at the screen. I had one situation in which
>>>> we
>>>> had an assignment as a group that we had to write a list of things and
>>>> then
>>>> place them on a white board for the class to see, so I just took down the
>>>> list on my laptop and brought the laptop up while another group member
>>>> copied what I had written onto the board. As far as assignments that I do
>>>> alone in class, my professors so far have been fine with me emailing it
>>>> whenever I was able to get internet access, whether it be at school or
>>>> when
>>>> I got home as long as I sent it in on the day of the assignment. Perhaps
>>>> you can make an appointment with the professor ahead of time to work out
>>>> a
>>>> plan or place it in your letter of accomodations that you need to email
>>>> class assignments after class is over or at home. Another way to do it is
>>>> a
>>>> thumb drive that you save for this purpose that the professor can get the
>>>> file from and then give back to you. If your note taker has a USB drive,
>>>> this might be a good option.
>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>> Misty
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <
>>>> bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] in class writing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Professors ask us students to do in-class writing sometimes. Typically
>>>> its unannounced; its not like its on the syllabus but the professor knows
>>>> it usually; I mean they know when they will assign in class writing.
>>>> Students are given a certain  amount of time to write and then hand in
>>>> the
>>>> writing. They may share the writing with each other or the class as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do you handle in class writing assignments? Do you write them on a
>>>> notetaker or laptop you take to school? How do you hand it in since we
>>>> are
>>>> not writing on paper? So far, I’ve usually written outside class and
>>>> emailed the copy to the professor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have good enough braille skills to read from my braille display to
>>>> other students, but I don’t usually finish the writing.
>>>>>>> I wish there was a computer lab in every building. Then I could walk
>>>> over there, type my writing prompt and then email it to the professor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I look forward to ideas.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ashley
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>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
>> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
>> feel."
>> —
>> Maya Angelou
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