[nabs-l] in class writing

Sat Jan 12 02:46:49 UTC 2013

Ashley,

Yeah, Ultrabooks are about that weight and run the regular version of
Windows  7.  Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure you could get
a 17 inch some way.  (I remember being asked if a 15 inch would do, so
if they asked that I would assume there are other options available.

On 1/11/13, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
> true, I shall give people the benefit of the doubt, but for the moment I am
> totally with you on that.
>
> mauricio
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mauricio,
>>  I can't see an acceptable reason.  That doesn't mean that,
>> hypothetically, there isn't one.  I just can't fathom how this is
>> fair, but maybe there's something I'm missing.
>>  Best,
>> Kirt
>>
>> On 1/11/13, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> true.
>>> I am against any alternative which give us unfair advantages, and this
>>> would
>>> absolutely be one of these cases.
>>> given all the points we made, there is no acceptable reason one would do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> mauricio
>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kirt,
>>>>
>>>> I have to agree with you there.  I could see it being justifyable if
>>>> there were no other alternative, but the whole point of the time limit
>>>> is to spark critical thinking and let the teacher know whether or not
>>>> you really know the material well enough that you can recite it back
>>>> or readily expound upon it with your own logic.  I would actually be
>>>> fearful of trying to do something like that out of class without the
>>>> same time limit and professor supervision as everyone else because
>>>> then the professor would have every right to consider that I checked
>>>> either my notes, textbook, or the internet before writing something
>>>> down.  That's an issue I would rather avoid completely.
>>>>
>>>> What I've also found at my university, where for most of my professors
>>>> I'm the first blind student they've come into contact with, the more
>>>> you can do just like your sighted peers the better their impression is
>>>> of you.  It may sound kind of silly, but I think it's true; one of my
>>>> professors said last semester that she had no idea blind students
>>>> could be so independent in their classwork because she assumed that I
>>>> would actually need or frequently use all the accomodations I have
>>>> been approved for.  This not only makes them good allies for you tou
>>>> in cases where you need letters or recommendation or something, but it
>>>> also helps pave the way for future blind students they might teach
>>>> because they'll know to treat them like any other student and hold
>>>> them to the same standards.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for my ranting blurb at the end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ashley and Carly,
>>>>> I am slightly curious how you justify doing work that everyone else
>>>>> does
>>>>> during their class time at home, especially since you seem to have
>>>>> alternative methods available to do the work at the same time as
>>>>> everybody
>>>>> else? In my mind, these writing assignments are given precisely
>>>>> because
>>>>> class time is short, and professors want to test how well you can
>>>>> write
>>>>> under pressure, with a limited amount of time and a prompt you may not
>>>>> have
>>>>> had the chance to think about before hand. To me, doing that kind of
>>>>> work
>>>>> at
>>>>> home, well you have all ready learned what the prompt is in class, is
>>>>> definitely an unfair advantage over your classmates. If I am wrong, I
>>>>> apologize. Please enlighten me.
>>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carley,
>>>>>> I do the same as you usually.
>>>>>> I take note of the class assignment and do it at home on my trusted
>>>>>> desktop.
>>>>>> If the professor is proactive, he or she will email me the topic
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> class so I can bring the assignment to class.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortunately, all professors seem fine with me emailing them as long
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> email it them soon after class.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:38 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>>>>>> Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] in class writing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning, Aleeha, Ashley and other interesteds,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as in-class writings go, what seems to work best for me is to
>>>>>> take note of what is being required the class write on at the time,
>>>>>> then going home and composing the material on my desktop before
>>>>>> emailing it to instructor. That way, the same "in-class" effect is
>>>>>> captured despite it happpening to not be composed in the physical,
>>>>>> classroom. In testing situations however, of course I bring the
>>>>>> notebook to one of those testing areas and write the test out.
>>>>>>>   If you are concerned about the possibility of your laptop getting
>>>>>>> stolen, here are a couple of things to consider.
>>>>>>> 1. Most other students carry laptops, phones, and other electronic
>>>>>>> devices with them to classes. I don't think that someone would
>>>>>>> specifically target your laptop to steal, especially with many other
>>>>>>> students and your professor also in the classroom.
>>>>>>> 2. As others have said, you can get a flash drive, usually very low
>>>>>>> cost, and put a doc or text file of your work on that drive in order
>>>>>>> to exchange it with other students and/or your professor.
>>>>>>> A good thing to keep in mind as well that some others have already
>>>>>>> hinted at is to have a very open conversation with your professor
>>>>>>> either before classes start or during the very first week of
>>>>>>> classes.
>>>>>>> Ask what is to be expected from the class, the different
>>>>>>> possibilities
>>>>>>> for in-class assignments, and the possible work-arounds for any
>>>>>>> problems that you or your professor might forsee.
>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I want to make another plug for netbooks. They aren't much bigger
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> Braille Notes, so you can easily fit it in your backpack, and a
>>>>>>>> netbook can do just about anything a laptop can. Plus it only costs
>>>>>>>> about $300 and the built-in battery can last for up to six hours. I
>>>>>>>> think it really is a good idea for any blind student to carry some
>>>>>>>> kind of mainstream computing device to class, whether that is a
>>>>>>>> laptop, netbook, or even an I-device so that you can easily
>>>>>>>> communicate in writing with sighted professors and peers. Braille
>>>>>>>> Notes are great and can be a wonderful supplement to a mainstream
>>>>>>>> computing device, but the computing technology Braille Notes use is
>>>>>>>> neither mainstream nor up-to-date.
>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/13, Deb Mendelsohn <deb.mendelsohn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Don't you have a laptop that you could email in class to the
>>>>>>>>> professor?
>>>>>>>>> Maybe RSA should get you one with JAWS on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deb
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Professors ask us students to do in-class writing sometimes.
>>>>>>>>>> Typically
>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>> unannounced; its not like its on the syllabus but the professor
>>>>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> usually; I mean they know when they will assign in class writing.
>>>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>>>>> are given a certain  amount of time to write and then hand in the
>>>>>>>>>> writing.
>>>>>>>>>> They may share the writing with each other or the class as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you handle in class writing assignments? Do you write them
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> notetaker or laptop you take to school? How do you hand it in
>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> not writing on paper? So far, I've usually written outside class
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> emailed the copy to the professor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have good enough braille skills to read from my braille display
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> students, but I don't usually finish the writing.
>>>>>>>>>> I wish there was a computer lab in every building. Then I could
>>>>>>>>>> walk
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> there, type my writing prompt and then email it to the professor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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