[nabs-l] watch out! it's another ridiculous update from Google

Bryan Jones opensesame at me.com
Sun Jun 2 10:44:18 UTC 2013 

Hi Cindy,

Sorry for the late response. When using Chrome on my macbook I tend to do most of my navigation with voiceover but will toggle chromevox on if I encounter something that trips up VO. When attempting to work with Google Docs, Sheets and Slides, I start with the Google Drive App and work from there. While I've not found a browser / screen reader combination that allows full access to those 3 apps, they have come a long way since I started working with them last September. If I need to read a gdoc I have the best experience through the google drive IOS app, and for editing I have the best experience using the google drive app on my macbook air to open the gdoc in chrome and navigate with chromevox. I have some links I can give you to help with learning and troubleshooting google drive, docs, sheets & slides. I need to run but will post the links this afternoon.

HTH,
Bryan

On May 24, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Cindy <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bryan,
> 
> Do you use Chrome with Voiceover? Or with Voiceover and Cchromevox in combination? Do you use Google apps with Voiceover? I realized that I could read but not edit Google docs on my iPhone. I wonder if there is a Google  docs app that I could download to be able to edit them.
> 
> Cindy Bennett
> Legislative Coordinator: National Federation of the Blind of Washington
> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
> 
> B.A. Psychology: UNC Wilmington
> clb5590 at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not seeing it when I log in with IE 9, but I'll be on the lookout
>> for it.  It's weird that it's showing up for some people with higher
>> browsers but not everyone.
>> 
>> If this does become an issue, it will be just like the Kindle and
>> Whispercast thing in the schools now.  I know my university just
>> switched to Google from IBM for their emailing this year, so the odds
>> that schools like it aren't going to want to switch from Google any
>> time soon if accessibility roadblocks start cropping up.
>> 
>> Outlook would probably be a workable solution assuming that Gmail is
>> the only thing that is going to be effected.  I doubt that Google
>> would make their search engine inaccessible because the whole point of
>> the simplicity behind it is so that everyone can use it without
>> getting confused or turned around.  I would hope that they wouldn't
>> try to complicate things to keep in competition with Bing or the other
>> search engines and sacrifice accessibility in the process, but we'll
>> have to see I guess.
>> 
>> Thanks for bringing this up, Aleeha.  It definitely sounds like
>> something we should keep an eye on.
>> 
>> On 5/23/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> I have the same question. As  a jaws user, I use internet explorer 9 and
>>> often use google as my search engine. As a jaws user, I find this simple
>>> search webpage user friendly because it does not have many links and images
>>> 
>>> as other search engines do like yahoo.
>>> I hope the ability to surf the internet using internet explorer 10 which is
>>> 
>>> the latest browser is not affected.
>>> I'm tired of google's tricks and inaccessibility of their aps.
>>> Ashley
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: justin
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:10 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] watch out! it's another ridiculous update from Google
>>> 
>>> So, is my ability to surf the internet on my computer going to be affected?
>>> If so, what do we do?  Does the nfb and Dr. Mauer know?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:00 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] watch out! it's another ridiculous update from Google
>>> 
>>> Not only that, but it will effect all of us as blind computer users--that
>>> is, until Google makes Chrome accessible.
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:54 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] watch out! it's another ridiculous update from Google
>>> 
>>> I hate to say this but this is going to drastically affect the notetakers.
>>> I
>>> mean the electronic ones with the displays.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 23, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am running IE 10.
>>>> 
>>>> If you look on the front page of your email, under the list of offered
>>> services like drive and calendar, you will see a message, if you are
>>> running
>>> Internet explorer, you will see a message that says your browser will soon
>>> no longer be supported. Under that message, you will see another line of
>>> text that says upgrade to a modern browser such as Google chrome. The
>>> browser link takes you to a site which will tell you what browser you are
>>> winning and will also list three other browsers that are more modern than
>>> yours. If I had not been bored and using my arrow keys to navigate the
>>> page,
>>> I would have never noticed this message.
>>>> I'll try to find another source for this information.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2013, at 17:22, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, a link would be nice. It was my understanding that Google was
>>>>> going to stop supporting IE 8, not IE in general. I thought versions
>>>>> newer than 8 would be ok.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/23/13, Anjelina Cruz <anjelinac26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I am a bit behind. When was this info released? Can someone please
>>>>>> post a link about these possible changes?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/23/13, ryan bishop <ryan.bishop96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Wait, are you saying there only going to expect Google crome?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
>>>>>>> Dudley
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] watch out! it's another ridiculous update from
>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>  For those using Internet explorer as your browser and using any
>>>>>>> Google-related app, your browser will soon no longer be supported.
>>>>>>> This means that you could easily lose access to your mail and any
>>>>>>> other google app.
>>>>>>> Just another reason why we should fight against the adoption of
>>>>>>> Google products at our colleges and universities!!!!!
>>>>>>> Just FYI.
>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>> 
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