[nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's

Sun Jun 16 00:12:03 UTC 2013

Backing them up is a good idea.

On 6/15/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everyone. I tried sending my Keyword files to RoboBraille and
> it was no go. RoboBraille said it didn't recognize the file type. I'll
> try it again after changing their file extensions to BRF.
> Arielle
>
> On 6/14/13, Nick Cocchiarella <tubacooch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I may have a suggestion for the braille keyword files, although
>> it might screw with the format a little bit. You could,
>> theoretically, change their extentions to .brf and open them in
>> Kurzweil or Open Book. I haven't tried this, but I have opened a
>> few text keyword documents on my computer, and aside from
>> completely destroying the format and adding a few extra letters
>> and symbols to the beginning of the document, it was perfectly
>> readable in word. I suspect the other way would yield the same
>> results, but it might not be a horrible idea to back the files
>> up, just in case my suggestion has the unfortunate habit of
>> damaging them beyond repair. Hope that helps.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: <dburke at cocenter.org>,"National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:00:46 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's
>>
>> I have old braille n speak files which I'd like to conver too.
>> Dan, does the same technique of converting brf files apply to
>> openbook too?
>> I have that but not kurzweil at home although I have access to
>> kurzweil at
>> my community college.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Burke
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:54 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's
>>
>> Ariel,
>>
>> I don't know about the Key Word files, as I haven't ever used
>> that format.
>> However, it may be that what I share about the Braille Lite 2000
>> may apply.
>>
>> First, if you're in Windows, you may have to change the  view
>> settings to
>> show the file extensions.
>>
>> I assume that your Braille Lite files were written in contracted
>> Braille.
>> If they have a .BRF extension or a .BRL extension, they can be
>> converted
>> with Kurzweil 1000 or possibly Open Book.  You could also send
>> the .BRF
>> files to robo Braille I believe, and have them converted to text
>> or Word.
>> I'm not as sure as with the .BRL extension files.
>>
>> However, .BRL extensions can simply be changed to .BRF and
>> they'll work.
>> Also, if they don't have any extension at all, just add the .BRF.
>>
>> One problem I noticed when converting in Kurzweil is that the
>> line breaks
>> don't carry over.  This means you might lose paragraph breaks
>>
>> HTH
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Arielle
>> Silverman
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:50 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I have a slightly related question. Is there any software or
>> Web-based
>> service that will convert a Keyword Braille file (one generated
>> on a
>> Braille Note) to text or Word format? I don't have a Braille Note
>> anymore, but have some old journals and other files I created on
>> a
>> Braille Note that I'd like to read, but can't because they're in
>> contracted Braille (Keyword Braille). For that matter, any way to
>> convert old files created on a Braille Lite 2000?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 6/13/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  I'm using jaws 14, but from what I can see, even if you use the
>> ocr in
>> jaws,
>>  you can only read it; you can't manipulate it in any way.
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bridget
>> Walker
>>  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:30 PM
>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's
>>
>>  The OCR in Openbook which is now built in to jaws 13 is all you
>> need to
>> read
>>  a PDF.
>>  All this means is when you select the program to open I. You
>> would pick
>>  Openbook but you do not have to do that anymore because of jaws
>> 13.
>>  I do not remember how I put Openbook as an option in the
>> programs list
>>  because it is not a default.
>>  If you would like more information on features for this software
>> I copied
>> a
>>  link.
>>  I am sorry I do not recall all of the detailed.
>>  What version of jaws are you using? If it is jaws 12 or higher
>> you have
>>  built in OCR and do not need any of this.
>>  Open a PDF, let it load and use your Jaws reading keys.
>>  I am sorry I did not ask the jaws version question befor because
>> that
>> could
>>  save a lot of work.
>>
>>  Best
>>
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:35 PM, "justin williams"
>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  How is it doen with open book?
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bridget
>>  Walker
>>  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:08 PM
>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Converting inaccessible PDF's
>>
>>  Hi,
>>  Open-book is pretty good or other scanning software with built
>> in OCR.
>>  Or download Zella PDF but that only converts to txt.
>>  Are you using a PDF reader? Are you using Adobe?
>>  If I recall Adobe  versions nine and up is compatible with jaws
>> 12 and
>>  up because of the added jaws OCR feature
>>
>>  I hope this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Kayla Weathers
>> <brailleprincess at gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi, can anyone recommend software that will convert inaccessible
>>  pdf's to word format that is accessible with JAWS?
>>  Thanks, Kayla
>>
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