[nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

Mon Mar 11 20:37:17 UTC 2013

I completely understand the supply and demand factor, but nowadays manufacturing companies are offering some sort of payment plan to pay over a set amount of time. Would it not stand to reason that humanware could do the same?   Not everyone has voc rehab helping them out right away when first entering college, for example, and I  think the expense of the BN is merely a small portion on why braille is consider by some to be obsolete.  Personally, I love brailole for my studies, and if I have to read something aloud, I'd feel a little silly trying to read aloud behind a screen reader.

I know this is kind of touching off base; I just think more should and could be done with humanware's notetakers as far as sales and quality.   Again this is not to show an unappriciation for what they've done so far.  
On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> The answer is extremely simple although my observation is that most blind people do not want to hear it. 
> First, piezoelectric braille displays are expensive and the demand for them is small enough that their price is unlikely to decrease much. 
> Second, Apple sells far more i-devices than Humanware, HIMS and Levelstar/APH sell note-takers. Therefore, Apple can take advantage of economies of scale in production that note-taker manufacturers can only dream of. High production quantity translates directly into lower prices 
> This is the economic consequence of being the minority we know ourselves to be. The fact that note-takers are, in essence, glorified PDAs with braille displays matters not one whit where economics are concerned. The kicker here is that we cannot depend upon mainstream devices to meet all our needs 
> All the complaining in the world won't change this reality. The one consolation we have here is that slates and styluses are still cheap! 
> 
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:05, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah my point is the same why in the world would you have to pay over $5,000 for a device that can barely do more than go on Facebook or google or Bookshare when an iPhone costs less than half the price and you can do anything on it.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:38:15 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote
>> 
>> I think i saw something about it on the BN mailing list, but someone said their computer was doing it too, and I have not had that problem.  Overall, the thread on it was not too helpful, but maybe I just didn't dig deep enough.
>> 
>> Another bad part about all this is, I can't even exit the internet because the dialog pops up again.  I have to reset my BN.
>> 
>> It's sadly getting to the point where, if not for the braille display, the BN would not be worth having…at least that's my thinking.
>> 
>> I know the BN can only do so muc, but if it were half as good as a mobile device that would be something.  I don't mean to bash the braillenote or the manufacturer, and I appologize if my tone is coming across as such, it's just…to spend that much money on a device and have your iphone/ipad, which coasts a fifth of the price, work more flawlessly is a wee bit disappointing.
>> 
>> Maybe humanware should up the game and make a iphone/ipad docking station with a braille display at the bottom…or an iphone/ipad case with a braille display somehow built in.  You have to admit, that would be beautiful.  :)
>> 
>> If anyone figures out a way around this, please let me know.  Thanks so much.
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Zachary N.  Griego-Dreicer <zdreicer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> good evening Valerie.  I get those annoying things all the time! I can not figure a way around them either.  Do you know of  the braillenote mailing list?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Quick question.  Does anyone ever get a ton of security alerts while using the internet on the braillenote apex?  When I go to facebook or bookshare, I'll get:
>> Security alert dialog.
>> informationyou exchange with this site cannot be viewed or changed by others.  However, there is a problem with the site's security certificate.  The security certificate is from a trusted certifying athority.
>> The security certificate date is valid.
>> The name on the security certificate is invalid or does not match the name of the site.
>> Do you want to continue?
>> 
>> The problem is:
>> 1.  I can sometimes get eight or ten of these in a row, and I just hit yes on it.
>> 2.  When i'm moving to a new line on the dialog, the braillenote lags.  for example, from "The name on the security certificate is invalid…" to "do you want to continue…" it takes the braillenote a second at most to jump from those two line.  When you're dealing with four lines, that's four seconds, just to get to the prompt.  With all of that added up, it takes about a minute to get past that.  I even tried hitting "no" on the prompt and it still brings up security stuff..
>> 
>> Any advice, suggestions, helpful hints, complaints such as this, etc? :)
>> 
>> Thanks
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