[nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

Mon Mar 11 20:43:58 UTC 2013

As for the slate versus the notetaker, generally, its faster with the 
notetaker; but a slate can be as fast as a pencil and paper if you have 
practiced enough. But I would never be fast like that as I did not grow up 
with it.

I like the petetion idea too. why not do i t online or at the nfb 
convention?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sophie Trist
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:13 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

Mike, I'm going to have to disagree with you here. Slates and
styluses are very inefficient. On my BN, I can type notes in
class faster than most sighted kids can write them. On an S&S,
notetaking would take ten times as long and be three times as
difficult. Also, I have found Apple's braille support to be very
nice. Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's great all things
considered. Okay, sorry for the rant and for getting off topic.
Kaiti, I like your idea of petitioning Humanware to include an
updated list of security certificates (as well as a freakin Docx
converter) into their next update. Does anyone know how we could
get such a project started?

Yours sincerely,
Sophie

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:55:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

The answer is extremely simple although my observation is that
most blind people do not want to hear it.
First, piezoelectric braille displays are expensive and the
demand for them is small enough that their price is unlikely to
decrease much.
Second, Apple sells far more i-devices than Humanware, HIMS and
Levelstar/APH sell note-takers. Therefore, Apple can take
advantage of economies of scale in production that note-taker
manufacturers can only dream of. High production quantity
translates directly into lower prices
This is the economic consequence of being the minority we know
ourselves to be. The fact that note-takers are, in essence,
glorified PDAs with braille displays matters not one whit where
economics are concerned. The kicker here is that we cannot depend
upon mainstream devices to meet all our needs
All the complaining in the world won't change this reality. The
one consolation we have here is that slates and styluses are
still cheap!

Mike Freeman
sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:05, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah my point is the same why in the world would you have to pay
over $5,000 for a device that can barely do more than go on
Facebook or google or Bookshare when an iPhone costs less than
half the price and you can do anything on it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:38:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

I think i saw something about it on the BN mailing list, but
someone said their computer was doing it too, and I have not had
that problem.  Overall, the thread on it was not too helpful, but
maybe I just didn't dig deep enough.

Another bad part about all this is, I can't even exit the
internet because the dialog pops up again.  I have to reset my
BN.

It's sadly getting to the point where, if not for the braille
display, the BN would not be worth having?¦at least that's my
thinking.

I know the BN can only do so muc, but if it were half as good as
a mobile device that would be something.  I don't mean to bash
the braillenote or the manufacturer, and I appologize if my tone
is coming across as such, it's just?¦to spend that much money on
a device and have your iphone/ipad, which coasts a fifth of the
price, work more flawlessly is a wee bit disappointing.

Maybe humanware should up the game and make a iphone/ipad
docking station with a braille display at the bottom?¦or an
iphone/ipad case with a braille display somehow built in.  You
have to admit, that would be beautiful.  :)

If anyone figures out a way around this, please let me know.
Thanks so much.
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Zachary N.  Griego-Dreicer
<zdreicer at gmail.com> wrote:

good evening Valerie.  I get those annoying things all the time!
I can not figure a way around them either.  Do you know of  the
braillenote mailing list?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Valerie Gibson
<valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Quick question.  Does anyone ever get a ton of security alerts
while using the internet on the braillenote apex?  When I go to
facebook or bookshare, I'll get:
Security alert dialog.
informationyou exchange with this site cannot be viewed or
changed by others.  However, there is a problem with the site's
security certificate.  The security certificate is from a trusted
certifying athority.
The security certificate date is valid.
The name on the security certificate is invalid or does not
match the name of the site.
Do you want to continue?

The problem is:
1.  I can sometimes get eight or ten of these in a row, and I
just hit yes on it.
2.  When i'm moving to a new line on the dialog, the braillenote
lags.  for example, from "The name on the security certificate is
invalid?? to "do you want to continue?? it takes the
braillenote a second at most to jump from those two line.  When
you're dealing with four lines, that's four seconds, just to get
to the prompt.  With all of that added up, it takes about a
minute to get past that.  I even tried hitting "no" on the prompt
and it still brings up security stuff..

Any advice, suggestions, helpful hints, complaints such as this,
etc? :)

Thanks
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