[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
Mary Fernandez
trillian551 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 20:52:04 UTC 2013
Hi all
I apologize for the previous message, it was not meant for the NABS list.
On 3/25/13, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
> And how about Mr. West coast (aka, el peligroso!)?
>
>
> On 3/25/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would submit that using an adult diaper is far from a convenient
>> "advantage" of blindness or any other disability. I'm sorry, but there
>> was really no excuse for that individual to go where she went!
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 3/25/13, wmodnl wmodnl <wmodnl at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well, if we were taking a survey of the oddest questions we were ever
>>> asked,
>>> I think what I was asked today would go well.
>>> Sir, not for nothing, how do you go to the bathroom? Well, the same way
>>> you
>>> do. No, I mean, like, when you are out and not at home. Why don't you
>>> use
>>> you know like those things for old people, like disabled people?
>>> I wanted to put some humor to it, so I said:
>>> Remember what used to happen when you pressed the wrong button while
>>> dialing
>>> in to Verizon?
>>> Sorry, that's not an option, try again.
>>> She began to tell me, that a blind woman she knew had other
>>> disabilities,
>>> and also "used things to her advantage." I realized what she was
>>> getting
>>> at, the clustering affect. One size fits all.
>>> Have a great day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No,
>>>> We use these things called food patches we swipe over our arm that puts
>>>> the nourishment for a good sized meal into our bloodstream. They are
>>>> used
>>>> completely by feel with Braille labels so we don't need any help with
>>>> them. That way we are never in need of wasting extra time eating and
>>>> doing
>>>> this horribly unnatural thing called socializing over dinner. If for
>>>> some
>>>> reason we are allergic to the substance excreted by the patches, we can
>>>> bring around a personalized IV that is permanently attached to our arm,
>>>> injecting our meals directly into our vain. If a blind person ever
>>>> touches
>>>> a fork they are in danger of stabbing themselves in the eye which is in
>>>> front of them, but because they can't see is magically put in the way
>>>> of
>>>> any sharp object they may handle. If they eat solid food they may
>>>> become
>>>> poisoned because they can't see the germs to keep from consuming bad
>>>> food.
>>>> In all cases blind people are never to be given dinner except in their
>>>> arm
>>>> patches.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Don't humans need food to survive? I guess they think blind people
>>>> have
>>>> a very short lifespan then, LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>>> williams
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> I've had people ask me or my friends if I would be capable of eating
>>>> dinner
>>>> on a date.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:28 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does
>>>> somebody
>>>> feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
>>>> Lester
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> Exactly!
>>>> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I
>>>> watch
>>>> TV!
>>>> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can
>>>> tell
>>>> somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
>>>> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle Silverman
>>>> [arielle71 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends
>>>> and
>>>> my
>>>> sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating configuration so
>>>> he
>>>> could see the video screen (obviously the three of us blind folks were
>>>> just
>>>> listening, so it didn't matter where we sat in the room). Eventually it
>>>> struck me that here was a situation where the lone sighted person was
>>>> the
>>>> one with "special needs" because he needed an accommodation that we
>>>> didn't.
>>>> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on
>>>> sighted
>>>> people. But it makes you think about where the supposed tragedy of
>>>> blindness
>>>> really comes from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit,
>>>> blind
>>>> people can be equal or even advantaged.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Lol. That is funny.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>>>> Keith Biggs
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>>>>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>>>>> room for a sighted person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door. Sighted
>>>>> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
>>>>> walking into
>>>>>
>>>>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>>>>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm outside
>>>>> and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into
>>>>> their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure print
>>>>> labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>>>>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>>>>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>>>>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>>>>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>>>>
>>>>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>>>>> If you
>>>>>
>>>>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>>>>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>>>>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure
>>>>> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted
>>>>> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>>>>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>>>>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Josh Gregory
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>>>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>>>>> mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>>>>> earlier post.
>>>>>> Misty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is important to read their trash. Remember, other people are,
>>>>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you. You can more easily
>>>>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying. You
>>>>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>>>> Gregory
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>>>>> good idea here, and when
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what
>>>>>>> they're like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>>>>> philosophy!
>>>>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>>>>> anything, and
>>>>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>>>>> thread that
>>>>>>> I just started.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>>>>> You think
>>>>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to
>>>>>>> go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large
>>>>>>> problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the
>>>>>>> ideas come from?
>>>>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they
>>>>>>> are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect
>>>>>>> a blind person's employment or education worth your time? what if
>>>>>>> that blind person is you?
>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> before!
>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>>>>> more...one is
>>>>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>>>>> accident practically in a coma or a child with multiple
>>>>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually impaired
>>>>>>> teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst. I had only
>>>>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>>>>> out that
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>>> life!,
>>>>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE
>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be
>>>>>>>>>> doing it one
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept.
>>>>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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