[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Kaiti Shelton crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 21:22:52 UTC 2013


Absolutely.  Clustering is certainly not okay, and frankly insulting.

On 3/25/13, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
> I apologize for the previous message, it was not meant for the NABS list.
>
>
> On 3/25/13, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> And how about Mr. West coast (aka, el peligroso!)?
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would submit that using an adult diaper is far from a convenient
>>> "advantage" of blindness or any other disability. I'm sorry, but there
>>> was really no excuse for that individual to go where she went!
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 3/25/13, wmodnl wmodnl <wmodnl at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, if we were taking a survey of the oddest questions we were ever
>>>> asked,
>>>> I think what I was asked today would go well.
>>>> Sir, not for nothing, how do you go to the bathroom?  Well, the same
>>>> way
>>>> you
>>>> do.  No, I mean, like, when you are out and not at home. Why don't you
>>>> use
>>>> you know like those things for old people, like disabled people?
>>>> I wanted to put some humor to it, so I said:
>>>> Remember what used to happen when you pressed the wrong button while
>>>> dialing
>>>> in to Verizon?
>>>> Sorry, that's not an option, try again.
>>>> She began to tell me, that a blind woman she knew had other
>>>> disabilities,
>>>> and also "used things to her advantage."  I realized what she was
>>>> getting
>>>> at, the clustering affect.  One size fits all.
>>>> Have a great day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>>>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>> We use these things called food patches we swipe over our arm that
>>>>> puts
>>>>> the nourishment for a good sized meal into our bloodstream. They are
>>>>> used
>>>>> completely by feel with Braille labels so we don't need any help with
>>>>> them. That way we are never in need of wasting extra time eating and
>>>>> doing
>>>>> this horribly unnatural thing called socializing over dinner. If for
>>>>> some
>>>>> reason we are allergic to the substance excreted by the patches, we
>>>>> can
>>>>> bring around a personalized IV that is permanently attached to our
>>>>> arm,
>>>>> injecting our meals directly into our vain. If a blind person ever
>>>>> touches
>>>>> a fork they are in danger of stabbing themselves in the eye which is
>>>>> in
>>>>> front of them, but because they can't see is magically put in the way
>>>>> of
>>>>> any sharp object they may handle. If they eat solid food they may
>>>>> become
>>>>> poisoned because they can't see the germs to keep from consuming bad
>>>>> food.
>>>>> In all cases blind people are never to be given dinner except in their
>>>>> arm
>>>>> patches.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Don't humans need food to survive? I guess they think blind
>>>>> people
>>>>> have
>>>>> a very short lifespan then, LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>>>> williams
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had people ask me or my friends if I would be capable of eating
>>>>> dinner
>>>>> on a date.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> Nusbaum
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:28 PM
>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does
>>>>> somebody
>>>>> feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
>>>>> Lester
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I
>>>>> watch
>>>>> TV!
>>>>> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can
>>>>> tell
>>>>> somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
>>>>> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle
>>>>> Silverman
>>>>> [arielle71 at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends
>>>>> and
>>>>> my
>>>>> sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating configuration so
>>>>> he
>>>>> could see the video screen (obviously the three of us blind folks were
>>>>> just
>>>>> listening, so it didn't matter where we sat in the room). Eventually
>>>>> it
>>>>> struck me that here was a situation where the lone sighted person was
>>>>> the
>>>>> one with "special needs" because he needed an accommodation that we
>>>>> didn't.
>>>>> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on
>>>>> sighted
>>>>> people. But it makes you think about where the supposed tragedy of
>>>>> blindness
>>>>> really comes from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit,
>>>>> blind
>>>>> people can be equal or even advantaged.
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Lol. That is funny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>>>>> Keith Biggs
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>>>>>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>>>>>> room for a sighted person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door.
>>>>>> Sighted
>>>>>> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
>>>>>> walking into
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>>>>>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm
>>>>>> outside
>>>>>> and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into
>>>>>> their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure
>>>>>> print
>>>>>> labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>>>>>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>>>>>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>>>>>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>>>>>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>>>>>> If you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>>>>>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>>>>>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the
>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>>>>>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>>>>>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Josh Gregory
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>>>>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>>>>>> earlier post.
>>>>>>> Misty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are,
>>>>>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily
>>>>>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying.  You
>>>>>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>>>>> Gregory
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>>>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>>>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>>>>>> good idea here, and when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> they're like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>>>>>> philosophy!
>>>>>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>>>>>> anything, and
>>>>>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>>>>>> thread that
>>>>>>>> I just started.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>>>>>> You think
>>>>>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and
>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>> problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the
>>>>>>>> ideas come from?
>>>>>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>>>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear
>>>>>>>> "they
>>>>>>>> are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may
>>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>> a blind person's employment or education worth your time? what if
>>>>>>>> that blind person is you?
>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> before!
>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>>>>>> more...one is
>>>>>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>>>>>> accident practically in  a coma or a child with multiple
>>>>>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually
>>>>>>>> impaired
>>>>>>>> teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only
>>>>>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>>>>>> out that
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>>>> life!,
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation
>>>>>>>>>>> FOR
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING
>>>>>>>>>>> ACCURATE
>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> doing it one
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the
>>>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>>>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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