[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Tue May 14 02:07:52 UTC 2013 

And therein lies the problem.  I don't know if you've seen huge dance
floors but you can't just lean your cane up against a corner for five
minutes and come back and get it after you're done dancing for a while
because, as I've said, forcing your way through a huge crowd back to
that corner without a cane will take enough time to make it not very
practical.  You can't just set it off to the side when you're dancing
because, well, there are probably no walls close by and you're likely
to cause some major accidents.  So, the yway I see it, there seem to
be only a couple practical options.  The first is to do what you seem
to be suggesting and set your cane in a corner somewhere, relying
pretty much exclusively on sighted guide until you're ready to leave
so you can get your cane back.  IF it works for you, cool, but it
doesn't work for me.  The other option is to try and figure out some
way to keep your cane with you and still be able to use both hands to
dance; it seems like using a telescopic or folding cane is the only
way this could even be practical, but I wanted to get other peoples'
opinions.
  Anyways, I have work to do, so I'm done for a little while.  Peace!
  Best,
Kirt

On 5/13/13, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> Exactly! Hopefully, the dancer could be aware of where he stashed his
> cane, so he need not recruit ol' Sighty...
> CarAt 06:46 PM 5/13/2013, you wrote:
>>I suppose if  it were that easy, the question would not have to be asked?
>>  Personally, I like to think  that there are options.  There is
>> nothing wrong with asking someone with vision to help you
>> find   your cane, but there is also nothing wrong with seeing if
>> there is a way that you can still keep track of your cane and get
>> it when you want and not feel as if you have to feel as if you are
>> bothering someone to grab it.
>>
>>  How often to women go dancing with their purse?
>>On May 13, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,  Can you not just set your cane to the side while you are
>> dancing? You don't need a holster, backpack or anything else. Jus
>> find a place you can reach, or ask ol' sighty to grab it when
>> you're done. Not rocket science!
>> > CarAt 06:12 PM 5/13/2013, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>> >> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing anything
>> >> that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a dress? Just thinking
>> >> about it is kind of hilarious!
>> >> Arielle
>> >>
>> >> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > HI Arielle,
>> >> >   I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a belt
>> >> > loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere for telescopic
>> >> > canes?  I think they look kind of silly, personally but I suppose
>> >> > it's
>> >> > an option.
>> >> >   Best,
>> >> > Kirt
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all had bar
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of coming-of-age that happen at
>> >> >> age
>> >> >> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>> >> >> mitzvahs,
>> >> >> so I became comfortable with dancing and potentially looking stupid
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> quite a young age. :) I'm sure some people taught me how to dance,
>> >> >> though I can't remember who and honestly, by now I've forgotten
>> >> >> most
>> >> >> of my formal instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is
>> >> >> mainly about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always had fun and
>> >> >> nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not wanted to be with me
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> the dance floor because of my dancing. So I don't think you need to
>> >> >> worry too much about how you appear to others. If the group is doing
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> line dance like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>> >> >> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or just
>> >> >> moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get a drink or
>> >> >> snack or whatever, during that song. If you want to learn some
>> >> >> things,
>> >> >> you could ask a friend or family member who has lots of dancing
>> >> >> experience to teach you or just to watch your moves and tell you
>> >> >> what's good and what you could change or improve on. Also, slow
>> >> >> dancing is easy for girls who are just supposed to follow the man,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> if you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women you
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>> >> >> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my cane
>> >> >> while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with a sighted
>> >> >> friend and stash my cane at a table while my friend and I danced.
>> >> >> Now
>> >> >> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night and I'd
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> to be able to keep track of my cane myself without having it on the
>> >> >> dance floor with me. If I go to a dancing event I usually am not
>> >> >> wearing clothes that allow for storage of a telescoping cane, unless
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> bring a purse and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is
>> >> >> an
>> >> >> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage this
>> >> >> issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound landmark of
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> sort like the bar or music stand and put my cane in a corner near
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> spot. But this doesn't work as well in large venues.
>> >> >> Arielle
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can
>> dance a little,
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> is a good teacher.  Tell him to move you your body for you at first
>> >> >>> so
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> can get the movement.  In japah, that is how the black belts teach
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> white
>> >> >>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if you
>> >> >>> don't
>> >> >>> drink,
>> >> >>> then that is fine too.  That is just a trick I use.  You can
>> do the same
>> >> >>> thing with a cup of water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>> >> >>> If
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the other
>> >> >>> methods
>> >> >>> will
>> >> >>> work just fine.  You just got to mix and match my man.  Mix and
>> >> >>> match.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> >>> Darian
>> >> >>> Smith
>> >> >>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>> >> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>> >> >>>  and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to
>> >> >>> partake
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> alcoholic  beverages?
>> >> >>>  I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just curious as
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> other
>> >> >>> ways you might go about it?
>> >> >>>  Thanks Justin!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   Darian
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>> >> >>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>> >> >>>> Sometimes
>> >> >>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not to
>> >> >>>> dance.
>> >> >>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>> >> >>>> possible;
>> >> >>>> however, there are just times in social situations where
>> you just have
>> >> >>>> to shake a leg.  Do the best you can.  Just move your hips and try
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> keep up with the beat.  There are a lot of other people out
>> there with
>> >> >>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If you
>> >> >>>> drink,
>> >> >>>> it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't make you better, you
>> >> >>>> jus
>> >> >>>> think you are.  Smile just a little even if you don't like
>> dancing, or
>> >> >>>> aren't very good at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or
>> hopefully you
>> >> >>>> are actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you are
>> >> >>>> confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you don't care.
>> >> >>>> It
>> >> >>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept I have
>> >> >>>> learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off of the dance
>> >> >>>> floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like that if I go out with a
>> >> >>>> group of people because I am using trips to the bar as an
>> excuse not to
>> >> >>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>> girl to teach
>> >> >>> you.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> >>>> Darian
>> >> >>>> Smith
>> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>> >> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am curious
>> >> >>>> about how you all go about attending social functions where
>> dancing is
>> >> >>>> a part of the atmosphere?
>> >> >>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't know how
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> dance?
>> >> >>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>> >> >>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do what a
>> >> >>>> lot
>> >> >>>> of folks do and watch it  on television  or the internet?
>> >> >>>> Thanks!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Darian
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