[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Tue May 14 03:37:30 UTC 2013

Oh come on, I know I'm not a moderator, but there's no need for that. And I don't think that's what he meant, sometimes you have to do that.

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On May 13, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:

> Stupid: Do you really think I would trust so much to the unknown? Do you really think I would just set my can down, without making provisions for retrieving it? C'mon!At 07:07 PM 5/13/2013, Kirt Manwaring wrote:
>> And therein lies the problem.  I don't know if you've seen huge dance
>> floors but you can't just lean your cane up against a corner for five
>> minutes and come back and get it after you're done dancing for a while
>> because, as I've said, forcing your way through a huge crowd back to
>> that corner without a cane will take enough time to make it not very
>> practical.  You can't just set it off to the side when you're dancing
>> because, well, there are probably no walls close by and you're likely
>> to cause some major accidents.  So, the yway I see it, there seem to
>> be only a couple practical options.  The first is to do what you seem
>> to be suggesting and set your cane in a corner somewhere, relying
>> pretty much exclusively on sighted guide until you're ready to leave
>> so you can get your cane back.  IF it works for you, cool, but it
>> doesn't work for me.  The other option is to try and figure out some
>> way to keep your cane with you and still be able to use both hands to
>> dance; it seems like using a telescopic or folding cane is the only
>> way this could even be practical, but I wanted to get other peoples'
>> opinions.
>>  Anyways, I have work to do, so I'm done for a little while.  Peace!
>>  Best,
>> Kirt
>> 
>> On 5/13/13, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Exactly! Hopefully, the dancer could be aware of where he stashed his
>> > cane, so he need not recruit ol' Sighty...
>> > CarAt 06:46 PM 5/13/2013, you wrote:
>> >>I suppose if  it were that easy, the question would not have to be asked?
>> >>  Personally, I like to think  that there are options.  There is
>> >> nothing wrong with asking someone with vision to help you
>> >> find   your cane, but there is also nothing wrong with seeing if
>> >> there is a way that you can still keep track of your cane and get
>> >> it when you want and not feel as if you have to feel as if you are
>> >> bothering someone to grab it.
>> >>
>> >>  How often to women go dancing with their purse?
>> >>On May 13, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,  Can you not just set your cane to the side while you are
>> >> dancing? You don't need a holster, backpack or anything else. Jus
>> >> find a place you can reach, or ask ol' sighty to grab it when
>> >> you're done. Not rocket science!
>> >> > CarAt 06:12 PM 5/13/2013, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>> >> >> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing anything
>> >> >> that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a dress? Just thinking
>> >> >> about it is kind of hilarious!
>> >> >> Arielle
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > HI Arielle,
>> >> >> >   I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a belt
>> >> >> > loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere for telescopic
>> >> >> > canes?  I think they look kind of silly, personally but I suppose
>> >> >> > it's
>> >> >> > an option.
>> >> >> >   Best,
>> >> >> > Kirt
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >> >> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all had bar
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of coming-of-age that happen at
>> >> >> >> age
>> >> >> >> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>> >> >> >> mitzvahs,
>> >> >> >> so I became comfortable with dancing and potentially looking stupid
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> quite a young age. :) I'm sure some people taught me how to dance,
>> >> >> >> though I can't remember who and honestly, by now I've forgotten
>> >> >> >> most
>> >> >> >> of my formal instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is
>> >> >> >> mainly about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always had fun and
>> >> >> >> nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not wanted to be with me
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> the dance floor because of my dancing. So I don't think you need to
>> >> >> >> worry too much about how you appear to others. If the group is doing
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> line dance like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>> >> >> >> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or just
>> >> >> >> moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get a drink or
>> >> >> >> snack or whatever, during that song. If you want to learn some
>> >> >> >> things,
>> >> >> >> you could ask a friend or family member who has lots of dancing
>> >> >> >> experience to teach you or just to watch your moves and tell you
>> >> >> >> what's good and what you could change or improve on. Also, slow
>> >> >> >> dancing is easy for girls who are just supposed to follow the man,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> if you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women you
>> >> >> >> may
>> >> >> >> want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>> >> >> >> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my cane
>> >> >> >> while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with a sighted
>> >> >> >> friend and stash my cane at a table while my friend and I danced.
>> >> >> >> Now
>> >> >> >> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night and I'd
>> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> to be able to keep track of my cane myself without having it on the
>> >> >> >> dance floor with me. If I go to a dancing event I usually am not
>> >> >> >> wearing clothes that allow for storage of a telescoping cane, unless
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> bring a purse and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is
>> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage this
>> >> >> >> issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound landmark of
>> >> >> >> some
>> >> >> >> sort like the bar or music stand and put my cane in a corner near
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> spot. But this doesn't work as well in large venues.
>> >> >> >> Arielle
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can
>> >> dance a little,
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> is a good teacher.  Tell him to move you your body for you at first
>> >> >> >>> so
>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >>> can get the movement.  In japah, that is how the black belts teach
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> white
>> >> >> >>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if you
>> >> >> >>> don't
>> >> >> >>> drink,
>> >> >> >>> then that is fine too.  That is just a trick I use.  You can
>> >> do the same
>> >> >> >>> thing with a cup of water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>> >> >> >>> If
>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the other
>> >> >> >>> methods
>> >> >> >>> will
>> >> >> >>> work just fine.  You just got to mix and match my man.  Mix and
>> >> >> >>> match.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>> Darian
>> >> >> >>> Smith
>> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>> >> >> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>> >> >> >>>  and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to
>> >> >> >>> partake
>> >> >> >>> in
>> >> >> >>> alcoholic  beverages?
>> >> >> >>>  I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just curious as
>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> other
>> >> >> >>> ways you might go about it?
>> >> >> >>>  Thanks Justin!
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>   Darian
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>> >> >> >>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>> >> >> >>>> Sometimes
>> >> >> >>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not to
>> >> >> >>>> dance.
>> >> >> >>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>> >> >> >>>> possible;
>> >> >> >>>> however, there are just times in social situations where
>> >> you just have
>> >> >> >>>> to shake a leg.  Do the best you can.  Just move your hips and try
>> >> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>>> keep up with the beat.  There are a lot of other people out
>> >> there with
>> >> >> >>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If you
>> >> >> >>>> drink,
>> >> >> >>>> it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't make you better, you
>> >> >> >>>> jus
>> >> >> >>>> think you are.  Smile just a little even if you don't like
>> >> dancing, or
>> >> >> >>>> aren't very good at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or
>> >> hopefully you
>> >> >> >>>> are actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you are
>> >> >> >>>> confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you don't care.
>> >> >> >>>> It
>> >> >> >>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept I have
>> >> >> >>>> learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off of the dance
>> >> >> >>>> floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like that if I go out with a
>> >> >> >>>> group of people because I am using trips to the bar as an
>> >> excuse not to
>> >> >> >>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>> >> girl to teach
>> >> >> >>> you.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>>> Darian
>> >> >> >>>> Smith
>> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>> >> >> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> >> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
>> >> >> >>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am curious
>> >> >> >>>> about how you all go about attending social functions where
>> >> dancing is
>> >> >> >>>> a part of the atmosphere?
>> >> >> >>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't know how
>> >> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>>> dance?
>> >> >> >>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>> >> >> >>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do what a
>> >> >> >>>> lot
>> >> >> >>>> of folks do and watch it  on television  or the internet?
>> >> >> >>>> Thanks!
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Darian
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