[nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.

Sun May 19 18:51:12 UTC 2013

Hi all,
While accountability and communication are always good, it seems like
the best plan is to have someone recording each and every NABS call,
so there is never any question about whether or not the calls will be
recorded. Is it possible to get a back-up recorder to do it at the
times when David is unable to record for whatever reason?
I suspect that Pam will not object to the recording, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Arielle

On 5/19/13, Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Darian,
>
> Thank you for explaining this process with the NABS membership. It sounds as
>
> though you have a good process in place as it concerns the recording of the
>
> conference calls. I hope that all individuals involved can respect this
> process.
>
> I happen to be someone who is a bit wary of being recorded and having this
> recording be distributed to everyone online. Because of this, I thought it
> would be nice to receive permission from the guest speaker before the
> recording was distributed  to everyone online. Perhaps the guest speaker
> would have no problem with this, but I think she should have the right to
> know that the conference call was being recorded when there was no
> announcement about it being recorded prior to the call. I think doing such a
>
> thing is simply a means of showing respect to the guest speaker. If we are
> not willing to show respect to our guest speakers then it may be difficult
> to find guest speakers for our conference calls in the future.
>
> But thank you Darian for serving on the membership committee and working
> hard to make these conference calls a reality. I know that the membership
> committee works hard behind the scenes to make these conference calls
> happen, and I deeply appreciate all the hard work that you and the
> membership committee do to make these conference calls a reality.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:19 AM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>
>> Hi all,
>>  I apologize  for getting  to this thread as last as I have, but today has
>>
>> been a long one, with A chapter meeting  and a few other things.
>> Let me first say that it is not the intention of NABS or  the Membership
>> committee to withhold information that can be useful  to those we serve.
>> For my part, I was not made aware that the call was going to be streamed
>> or recorded, nor do I remember  the participants of  the call being given
>>
>> any heads-up   that the call would be recorded.
>>  if the participants communicate  that they are alright with    the
>> recording  being distributed, then I think it's fine. I'll check with both
>>
>> the speakers of this call to make sure they are fie with it too.
>>  I feel the need to correct  some misunderstandings as it relates to  some
>>
>> of the NABS thought process regarding recordings.
>> We feel that   every program  that  we do should be aimed  towards
>> benefitting every student, and that anyone who wants to be a part of
>> creating, running and supporting our programs should be welcomed to do so,
>>
>> because these programs  are programs that belong to everyone.
>> We see the NABS membership calls as a successful  part of those programs
>> and appreciate the  hard work our committee members and guests put into
>> it.
>> an essential part of the success of these Calls is David Dunphy, as he
>> generously gives  of his time and resources to make sure that those who
>> cannot join us on these informative  confrence calls gets the chance to
>> listen live via his stream, and after the event via recorded audio.
>> In order to insure that each person takes advantage of these options, we
>> ask that We simply be provided with confirmation that his services  will
>> be available  as well as     the links to the appropriate resources.
>> We also ask that should something arise where  Our audio access expert
>> might not be available to record the call, that notice be given to the
>> committee before letting  the entirety of the NABS membership know that
>> he will be absent.
>>
>> We ask for information prior to it going public, so that we are  insuring
>>
>> that we are ahead  of any potential concerns, not behind them.
>> We also ask, so we can be sure to communicate any changes  with our
>> membership immediately.
>> Because these  announcements don't just go to the NABS-L list, they go to
>>
>> many other lists,  we want to make sure that the information reaches those
>>
>> interested individuals too.
>> I understand and am well aware that  the consistency of notification of,
>> and execution of call recordings has not been near as  up to par as anyone
>>
>> would like, and as chair  of the  membership committee, I apologize to
>> each of you.
>>  My expectation  of how we operate  includes communication and
>> accountability, standards   I will   strive  to model, if I have not done
>>
>> this toan acceptable level.
>>  If anyone (David included) has any concerns, questions or suggestions,
>> please do bring them to me off-list so that we can get  the heart of the
>> matter in the most civil and productive way possible.
>>  I thank you all for your thoughts, opinions and concerns. If we keep
>> asking, questioning and collaborating, we will continue  to build a
>> brighter future for  ourselves, and generations  of students that will
>> come after us.
>>    Respectfully,
>>   Darian
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 18, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Arielle,
>>>
>>>        Hold onto your hat for another 360 from Carly! Reading this
>>> message, it seems that, duh, the call was slated to have such a feat.One
>>>
>>> could say It's something that oughta be taken for granted during such
>>> calls.  Arielle is right, folks should not miss out, simply because some
>>>
>>> people failed to see plans to post the call.
>>> for today,  Car 5/18/2013, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I am pretty sure I saw NABS tweet that the call was being streamed
>>>> live, and in order for it to be streamed it first had to be recorded.
>>>> So I don't think the recording was taken without people's knowledge or
>>>> permission. I wasn't on the call, and perhaps David should have made
>>>> multiple announcements about the recording happening, but there will
>>>> always be cases where callers come in late and miss the info about the
>>>> call being recorded. I don't think that NABS recordings should be
>>>> withheld from the membership for this reason.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> > David,
>>>> > Most of us familiar with nabs know you have a radio show online and
>>>> > also
>>>> > record the nabs calls.
>>>> > I believe you help with the online streaming too, right?
>>>> > If so, I commend your efforts to make the calls both accessible via
>>>> > the
>>>> > computer and phone lines.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll send you a note off list to get the file.
>>>> > Ashley
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: David Dunphy
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>> >
>>>> > Darian was told I was there with the recording. Take it up with him
>>>> > and the
>>>> > membership committee if you have issue with whether or not I've
>>>> > recorded it
>>>> > or not. It was streamed live as well, which was also made clear on
>>>> > the
>>>> > call.
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:04 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hello David,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> it seems to me that there is some discrepancy regarding the recording
>>>> >>
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> these conference calls. Did everyone on the conference call know that
>>>> >>
>>>> >> the
>>>> >>
>>>> >> call was being recorded? If not, then I do not believe it is right
>>>> >> for you
>>>> >>
>>>> >> to infringe upon their privacy. If you did not receive permission to
>>>> >> record this conference call then I do not believe you have the right
>>>> >>
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> distribute it to other people.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Elizabeth
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> >> From: "David Dunphy" <djd76257 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I have a copy of the call that can be made available for download
>>>> >>> if
>>>> >>> people want it.
>>>> >>>
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