[nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.

David Dunphy djd76257 at gmail.com
Mon May 20 13:05:58 UTC 2013 

If you want to deal with a difficult person, I'd recommend him.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jedi Moerke" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.


> If no one writes, I'd recommend Peter Donahue who does many of the 
> convention recordings.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If anyone is interested in being a backup recorder, please contact me 
>> off-list and we'll figure it out.
>> Thanks so much,
>>  Darian
>> On May 19, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Darian,
>>>
>>> Thank you for explaining this process with the NABS membership. It 
>>> sounds as though you have a good process in place as it concerns the 
>>> recording of the conference calls. I hope that all individuals involved 
>>> can respect this process.
>>>
>>> I happen to be someone who is a bit wary of being recorded and having 
>>> this recording be distributed to everyone online. Because of this, I 
>>> thought it would be nice to receive permission from the guest speaker 
>>> before the recording was distributed  to everyone online. Perhaps the 
>>> guest speaker would have no problem with this, but I think she should 
>>> have the right to know that the conference call was being recorded when 
>>> there was no announcement about it being recorded prior to the call. I 
>>> think doing such a thing is simply a means of showing respect to the 
>>> guest speaker. If we are not willing to show respect to our guest 
>>> speakers then it may be difficult to find guest speakers for our 
>>> conference calls in the future.
>>>
>>> But thank you Darian for serving on the membership committee and working 
>>> hard to make these conference calls a reality. I know that the 
>>> membership committee works hard behind the scenes to make these 
>>> conference calls happen, and I deeply appreciate all the hard work that 
>>> you and the membership committee do to make these conference calls a 
>>> reality.
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:19 AM
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I apologize  for getting  to this thread as last as I have, but today 
>>>> has been a long one, with A chapter meeting  and a few other things.
>>>> Let me first say that it is not the intention of NABS or  the 
>>>> Membership committee to withhold information that can be useful  to 
>>>> those we serve.
>>>> For my part, I was not made aware that the call was going to be 
>>>> streamed or recorded, nor do I remember  the participants of  the call 
>>>> being given any heads-up   that the call would be recorded.
>>>> if the participants communicate  that they are alright with    the 
>>>> recording  being distributed, then I think it's fine. I'll check with 
>>>> both the speakers of this call to make sure they are fie with it too.
>>>> I feel the need to correct  some misunderstandings as it relates to 
>>>> some of the NABS thought process regarding recordings.
>>>> We feel that   every program  that  we do should be aimed  towards 
>>>> benefitting every student, and that anyone who wants to be a part of 
>>>> creating, running and supporting our programs should be welcomed to do 
>>>> so, because these programs  are programs that belong to everyone.
>>>> We see the NABS membership calls as a successful  part of those 
>>>> programs and appreciate the  hard work our committee members and guests 
>>>> put into it.
>>>> an essential part of the success of these Calls is David Dunphy, as he 
>>>> generously gives  of his time and resources to make sure that those who 
>>>> cannot join us on these informative  confrence calls gets the chance to 
>>>> listen live via his stream, and after the event via recorded audio.
>>>> In order to insure that each person takes advantage of these options, 
>>>> we ask that We simply be provided with confirmation that his services 
>>>> will be available  as well as     the links to the appropriate 
>>>> resources.
>>>> We also ask that should something arise where  Our audio access expert 
>>>> might not be available to record the call, that notice be given to the 
>>>> committee before letting  the entirety of the NABS membership know that 
>>>> he will be absent.
>>>>
>>>> We ask for information prior to it going public, so that we are 
>>>> insuring that we are ahead  of any potential concerns, not behind them.
>>>> We also ask, so we can be sure to communicate any changes  with our 
>>>> membership immediately.
>>>> Because these  announcements don't just go to the NABS-L list, they go 
>>>> to many other lists,  we want to make sure that the information reaches 
>>>> those interested individuals too.
>>>> I understand and am well aware that  the consistency of notification 
>>>> of, and execution of call recordings has not been near as  up to par as 
>>>> anyone would like, and as chair  of the  membership committee, I 
>>>> apologize to each of you.
>>>> My expectation  of how we operate  includes communication and 
>>>> accountability, standards   I will   strive  to model, if I have not 
>>>> done this toan acceptable level.
>>>> If anyone (David included) has any concerns, questions or suggestions, 
>>>> please do bring them to me off-list so that we can get  the heart of 
>>>> the matter in the most civil and productive way possible.
>>>> I thank you all for your thoughts, opinions and concerns. If we keep 
>>>> asking, questioning and collaborating, we will continue  to build a 
>>>> brighter future for  ourselves, and generations  of students that will 
>>>> come after us.
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Darian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 18, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Arielle,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hold onto your hat for another 360 from Carly! Reading this 
>>>>> message, it seems that, duh, the call was slated to have such a 
>>>>> feat.One could say It's something that oughta be taken for granted 
>>>>> during such calls.  Arielle is right, folks should not miss out, 
>>>>> simply because some people failed to see plans to post the call.
>>>>> for today,  Car 5/18/2013, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I am pretty sure I saw NABS tweet that the call was being streamed
>>>>>> live, and in order for it to be streamed it first had to be recorded.
>>>>>> So I don't think the recording was taken without people's knowledge 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> permission. I wasn't on the call, and perhaps David should have made
>>>>>> multiple announcements about the recording happening, but there will
>>>>>> always be cases where callers come in late and miss the info about 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> call being recorded. I don't think that NABS recordings should be
>>>>>> withheld from the membership for this reason.
>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>> Most of us familiar with nabs know you have a radio show online and 
>>>>>>>  > also
>>>>>>> record the nabs calls.
>>>>>>> I believe you help with the online streaming too, right?
>>>>>>> If so, I commend your efforts to make the calls both accessible via 
>>>>>>>  > the
>>>>>>> computer and phone lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll send you a note off list to get the file.
>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: David Dunphy
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darian was told I was there with the recording. Take it up with him 
>>>>>>>  > and the
>>>>>>> membership committee if you have issue with whether or not I've > 
>>>>>>> recorded it
>>>>>>> or not. It was streamed live as well, which was also made clear on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:04 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello David,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it seems to me that there is some discrepancy regarding the 
>>>>>>>> recording >> of
>>>>>>>> these conference calls. Did everyone on the conference call know 
>>>>>>>> that >> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> call was being recorded? If not, then I do not believe it is right 
>>>>>>>>  >> for you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to infringe upon their privacy. If you did not receive permission 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> record this conference call then I do not believe you have the 
>>>>>>>> right >> to
>>>>>>>> distribute it to other people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "David Dunphy" <djd76257 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Epic Philosophy call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of the call that can be made available for download 
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> people want it.
>>>>>>>>>
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