[nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelatedtooneanother

Desiree Oudinot turtlepower17 at gmail.com
Tue May 21 06:18:10 UTC 2013 

Hi,
No, it was me. My email address is turtlepower17 at gmail.com. It's late
now, but I'll write to you in more detail later on today.

On 5/21/13, Dave Webster <dwebster125 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     yea that's cool?  who wanted to contact me off list?  ariel?  right?  I
>
> think that's who it was.  yea you can contact me off list.  I think my email
>
> address is there because I replied to posts so I think its there.  Feel
> free.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desiree Oudinot
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:13 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
> unrelatedtooneanother
>
> I don't want to pass judgment, since I don't know you or the
> circumstances that lead up to your leaving, but one thing that I see
> as glaringly obvious is that a lot, and I do mean A LOT, can change in
> 14 years. For anyone to hold a grudge against someone for that long is
> unacceptable. I don't want to say anything else, as I'm only going on
> hearsay here, and although I could let my anger at what you've said
> carry me a lot further, I won't since this is a public list and I
> don't know all the facts. Dave, if you would like to contact me off
> list to discuss this further, maybe that would be a better course of
> action at this point.
>
> On 5/20/13, Dave Webster <dwebster125 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi.  Its Dave.  I went to lcb in 97 and if I remember correctly I didn't
>> test out of braille or any class for that matter.  I just up and left
>> after
>>
>> 6 months because I couldn't take it anymore.  I did ok with the classes
>> but
>>
>> at that time I didn't realize that these were nfb centers and wasn't too
>> familiar with the nfb philosophy and did what I could for about 6 months
>> and
>>
>> just said I can't take this anymore.  I was having problems with
>> depression
>>
>> at that time too and wasn't on any meds so.  I now know what they wre
>> trying
>>
>> to do and I know the nfb philosophy now and if I could may think about
>> going
>>
>> back to lcb but I haven't talked to Pam yet and I know she remembers me
>> because I was on that conference call that we did and when I asked her if
>> she remembered me she said she did.  I have a feeling she'd probably say
>> well you fought against us once when you were here and pretty much
>> denounced
>>
>> us once so.  Now 15 20 years later you want to come back?  How do I know
>> you're not gonna denounce us and fight against us again.  this was when
>> Joanne was director and a few years later I tried to go back and that's
>> pretty much what Joanne told me.  I mean she just said no.  I mean flat
>> out
>>
>> N O.  so.  In fact when we had that call the other night that was the
>> first
>>
>> time I had talked to anyone from the center in probably 6 or 7 years.  I
>> even tried to talk to Jd in 2006 in Dalas about me ever coming back and
>> he
>> pretty much said well you may have a hard time convincing pam that you're
>> not gonna go and do the same thing so.  but be my guest if you want to
>> try.
>>
>> In their eyes I've always been the one who had a lot of potential but
>> didn't
>>
>> quite make it.  wen I got there I didn't believe in the nfb and didn't
>> believe any of it was true for that whole 6 months I was there but now I
>> do
>>
>> so.  Who knows?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:19 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
>> unrelatedtooneanother
>>
>> Are the centers open all year round, or do they have start and
>> end times like school? If possible, I'd like to go to LCB
>> directly after graduating high school and train during the
>> summer.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:04:56 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelated
>> tooneanother
>>
>> Yes you can test out of a class. It depends on the center exactly
>> how
>> you arrange that, but they do try to address students' individual
>> needs. In my case, I tested out of Braille at LCB after I had
>> been in
>> Braille class for a month and had proven to Mr. Whittle that I
>> didn't
>> need extra Braille reading practice. Also, part of the reason the
>> teachers supported my decision to test out was because I really
>> needed
>> more time for home management/cooking class. I had that class
>> first
>> thing in the morning and was chronically running late from that
>> class
>> which messed up the rest of the morning's schedule. So I asked to
>> replace the Braille with an extra hour of cooking and they
>> agreed. I
>> still went to Braille class once a week because I wanted to
>> practice
>> slating, but if you are good at that too, you may be able to test
>> out
>> completely. Now that I can successfully cook for myself and my
>> fiancee
>> in a timely fashion, I am very grateful that they were flexible
>> enough
>> to allow me the extra training in that area. Another way to test
>> out
>> of other classes, like cooking and shop, is to finish the
>> required
>> projects quickly. I know some students who have come with
>> excellent
>> cooking skills or woodworking experience have been able to finish
>> those classes in just a few months and be able to spend the rest
>> of
>> their training on the other classes.
>> Best,
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 5/20/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I just noticed the typo.  I meant to say infrared.
>> Basically
>> all you do is when you set up the printer connection it should
>> be in
>> the list, and then you line up the little infrared scanner on
>> the
>> BrailleNote, (should be on the far right side of the back of the
>> unit,
>> assuming that you have it with the keyboard side facing up,)
>> with the
>> infrared scanner on the printer.  On the printers I've used it
>> with
>> the scanner was on the front of the printer on the right side as
>> well
>> so if your printer has it it should be pretty easy to find.
>> Then the
>> printer and BrailleNote can talk via the scanners verses through
>> the
>> wires and cables and you just follow all the regular printing
>> commands
>> from there.
>> Hope this helps.  I don't know why bluetooth didn't occur to me,
>> but
>> that might be an option worth exploring too.  Either that or
>> infrared
>> will probably be your best options for printing wirelessly.
>>
>> On 5/20/13, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kaiti, thanks for the reply. What is inferred printing? I've
>> never heard of it but it sounds super interesting. Could you
>> explain that to me please?
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:22:09 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
>> unrelated
>> to oneanother
>>
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> As far as I am aware the BrailleNote cannot connect to a
>> wireless
>> printer, but it can go off of inferred which is really nice.  I
>> used
>> it for a few years and although I still needed to be right by
>> the
>> printer cutting out the cords saved me a lot of hassle.  Hope
>> that
>> answers your question.
>>
>> Absolutely.  I know a number of people who have tested out of
>> Braille
>> courses at the centers.  My understanding from being on calls
>> with Pam
>> Allen recently is that the centers try to meet the individual
>> trainee
>> where they are in each of the class areas and build on those
>> skills.
>> So, if you're braille is great they won't make you do a bunch of
>> unnecessary training and will instead spend that time on
>> building
>> up
>> other skills.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> On 5/20/13, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>   Sophie,
>>   I don't believe that you can test out of a class at a NFB
>> training
>>   center however, I'm not sure about that. I would recommend that
>> you talk
>>   to the director of which ever training center that you are
>> planning on
>>   attending either Julie Deden at CCB or Pam Alan at LCB. I
>> attended CCB
>>   so If I'm missing something would some one please correct me?
>>   Koby.
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sophie
>>   Trist
>>   Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:25 AM
>>   To: nabs
>>   Subject: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelated
>> to
>> one
>>   another
>>
>>   dear List,
>>
>>   As my subject implies, I have 2 questions that are not related,
>>   but I thought I'd put them in the same thread. I'm 99% sure I
>>   know the answer to this first question, but I thought I'd check
>>   anyway. Can the braillenote connect to a wireless printer? I
>>   don't think so, but it would make my life a lot more convenient
>>   if it could and I want to verify. My second question concerns
>> NFB
>>   training centers. I'll be going to one in a couple of years,
>> and
>>   I know that the standard classes are braille, home ec, O&M,
>>   technology, and shop. I've had braille education since I was 3
>>   and can fluently read grades 1 and 2 as well as nemeth. I was
>>   wondering if you can test out of a class at an NFB training
>>   center. Any answer will be appreciated.
>>
>>   Best,
>>   Sophie Trist
>>
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