[nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelatedtooneanother

Dave Webster dwebster125 at gmail.com
Tue May 21 21:53:31 UTC 2013 

    Ok cool.  what's your email?
----Original Message----- 
From: Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:13 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely 
unrelatedtooneanother

Dave,
it was Desiree who wanted to talk off list.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Webster
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:52 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
unrelatedtooneanother

    yea that's cool?  who wanted to contact me off list?  ariel?  right?  I
think that's who it was.  yea you can contact me off list.  I think my email
address is there because I replied to posts so I think its there.  Feel
free.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:13 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
unrelatedtooneanother

I don't want to pass judgment, since I don't know you or the
circumstances that lead up to your leaving, but one thing that I see
as glaringly obvious is that a lot, and I do mean A LOT, can change in
14 years. For anyone to hold a grudge against someone for that long is
unacceptable. I don't want to say anything else, as I'm only going on
hearsay here, and although I could let my anger at what you've said
carry me a lot further, I won't since this is a public list and I
don't know all the facts. Dave, if you would like to contact me off
list to discuss this further, maybe that would be a better course of
action at this point.

On 5/20/13, Dave Webster <dwebster125 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.  Its Dave.  I went to lcb in 97 and if I remember correctly I didn't
> test out of braille or any class for that matter.  I just up and left 
> after
>
> 6 months because I couldn't take it anymore.  I did ok with the classes 
> but
>
> at that time I didn't realize that these were nfb centers and wasn't too
> familiar with the nfb philosophy and did what I could for about 6 months 
> and
>
> just said I can't take this anymore.  I was having problems with 
> depression
>
> at that time too and wasn't on any meds so.  I now know what they wre 
> trying
>
> to do and I know the nfb philosophy now and if I could may think about 
> going
>
> back to lcb but I haven't talked to Pam yet and I know she remembers me
> because I was on that conference call that we did and when I asked her if
> she remembered me she said she did.  I have a feeling she'd probably say
> well you fought against us once when you were here and pretty much 
> denounced
>
> us once so.  Now 15 20 years later you want to come back?  How do I know
> you're not gonna denounce us and fight against us again.  this was when
> Joanne was director and a few years later I tried to go back and that's
> pretty much what Joanne told me.  I mean she just said no.  I mean flat 
> out
>
> N O.  so.  In fact when we had that call the other night that was the 
> first
>
> time I had talked to anyone from the center in probably 6 or 7 years.  I
> even tried to talk to Jd in 2006 in Dalas about me ever coming back and he
> pretty much said well you may have a hard time convincing pam that you're
> not gonna go and do the same thing so.  but be my guest if you want to 
> try.
>
> In their eyes I've always been the one who had a lot of potential but 
> didn't
>
> quite make it.  wen I got there I didn't believe in the nfb and didn't
> believe any of it was true for that whole 6 months I was there but now I 
> do
>
> so.  Who knows?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sophie Trist
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:19 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
> unrelatedtooneanother
>
> Are the centers open all year round, or do they have start and
> end times like school? If possible, I'd like to go to LCB
> directly after graduating high school and train during the
> summer.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:04:56 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelated
> tooneanother
>
> Yes you can test out of a class. It depends on the center exactly
> how
> you arrange that, but they do try to address students' individual
> needs. In my case, I tested out of Braille at LCB after I had
> been in
> Braille class for a month and had proven to Mr. Whittle that I
> didn't
> need extra Braille reading practice. Also, part of the reason the
> teachers supported my decision to test out was because I really
> needed
> more time for home management/cooking class. I had that class
> first
> thing in the morning and was chronically running late from that
> class
> which messed up the rest of the morning's schedule. So I asked to
> replace the Braille with an extra hour of cooking and they
> agreed. I
> still went to Braille class once a week because I wanted to
> practice
> slating, but if you are good at that too, you may be able to test
> out
> completely. Now that I can successfully cook for myself and my
> fiancee
> in a timely fashion, I am very grateful that they were flexible
> enough
> to allow me the extra training in that area. Another way to test
> out
> of other classes, like cooking and shop, is to finish the
> required
> projects quickly. I know some students who have come with
> excellent
> cooking skills or woodworking experience have been able to finish
> those classes in just a few months and be able to spend the rest
> of
> their training on the other classes.
> Best,
> Arielle
>
> On 5/20/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I just noticed the typo.  I meant to say infrared.
> Basically
> all you do is when you set up the printer connection it should
> be in
> the list, and then you line up the little infrared scanner on
> the
> BrailleNote, (should be on the far right side of the back of the
> unit,
> assuming that you have it with the keyboard side facing up,)
> with the
> infrared scanner on the printer.  On the printers I've used it
> with
> the scanner was on the front of the printer on the right side as
> well
> so if your printer has it it should be pretty easy to find.
> Then the
> printer and BrailleNote can talk via the scanners verses through
> the
> wires and cables and you just follow all the regular printing
> commands
> from there.
> Hope this helps.  I don't know why bluetooth didn't occur to me,
> but
> that might be an option worth exploring too.  Either that or
> infrared
> will probably be your best options for printing wirelessly.
>
> On 5/20/13, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kaiti, thanks for the reply. What is inferred printing? I've
> never heard of it but it sounds super interesting. Could you
> explain that to me please?
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:22:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely
> unrelated
> to oneanother
>
> Hi Sophie,
>
> As far as I am aware the BrailleNote cannot connect to a
> wireless
> printer, but it can go off of inferred which is really nice.  I
> used
> it for a few years and although I still needed to be right by
> the
> printer cutting out the cords saved me a lot of hassle.  Hope
> that
> answers your question.
>
> Absolutely.  I know a number of people who have tested out of
> Braille
> courses at the centers.  My understanding from being on calls
> with Pam
> Allen recently is that the centers try to meet the individual
> trainee
> where they are in each of the class areas and build on those
> skills.
> So, if you're braille is great they won't make you do a bunch of
> unnecessary training and will instead spend that time on
> building
> up
> other skills.
>
> HTH!
>
> On 5/20/13, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Sophie,
>   I don't believe that you can test out of a class at a NFB
> training
>   center however, I'm not sure about that. I would recommend that
> you talk
>   to the director of which ever training center that you are
> planning on
>   attending either Julie Deden at CCB or Pam Alan at LCB. I
> attended CCB
>   so If I'm missing something would some one please correct me?
>   Koby.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sophie
>   Trist
>   Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:25 AM
>   To: nabs
>   Subject: [nabs-l] two questions that are completely unrelated
> to
> one
>   another
>
>   dear List,
>
>   As my subject implies, I have 2 questions that are not related,
>   but I thought I'd put them in the same thread. I'm 99% sure I
>   know the answer to this first question, but I thought I'd check
>   anyway. Can the braillenote connect to a wireless printer? I
>   don't think so, but it would make my life a lot more convenient
>   if it could and I want to verify. My second question concerns
> NFB
>   training centers. I'll be going to one in a couple of years,
> and
>   I know that the standard classes are braille, home ec, O&M,
>   technology, and shop. I've had braille education since I was 3
>   and can fluently read grades 1 and 2 as well as nemeth. I was
>   wondering if you can test out of a class at an NFB training
>   center. Any answer will be appreciated.
>
>   Best,
>   Sophie Trist
>
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