[nabs-l] Stop Blaming the Economy

Sat Nov 16 19:36:27 UTC 2013

I think, the other side to the argument is:
Regardless of the economy, we always appear as a liability not an asset to companies large and small.  Companies will always blame the economy, or our "costs" before hiring us.  It is the fact of corporate America.  They think with the pocket, not the fact that, we are probably harder loyal workers compared to most "normal" people.  The average individual can not deal with, or handle seeing someone who is "different" in an office setting.

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> On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:54 PM, "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler at tysdomain.com> wrote:
> 
> Joe:
> Minh's point was just this:
> 
> There are a ton of people right now (it's not really uncommon to see college graduates living with their parents) without jobs. all of them are qualified and all of them would love a job. While you're keeping your skills sharp, so are they. Now, when it comes down to the hiring process, who do you think employers are going to hire? Are they going to hire the blind guy who they are uncertain about, who they may need to spend money on accomidating, or are they going to hire the next perfectly abel person in line? They can pay lower wages and people will still take the jobs, and guess what? If they don't, the next person will. The economy is bad right now, which means it's bad for everyone--you, me, uncle sam and most small businesses. Why shell out extra hundreds of dollars that may be required on accomidations when you can have someone that does the same job and costs you less? You sound like you're in a bit of denial here, but it's the facts of life. No, Minh never said we are less able. She was just pointing out some of the logical reasons behind your point. you can deny all you want, but it doesn't change the facts of life. As to your jab about her mantality, she's probably one of the most active blind people I've met, so I don't think that's the case here. It may be different for you to point that finger if she sat at home and did nothing.
>> On 11/14/2013 9:32 PM, Joe wrote:
>> Tyler,
>> 
>> I'm not sure what reality check you're hoping I'll receive. If it's
>> unemployment you're wishing on me, anything is possible, but even with a
>> position in the federal government I have kept a part-time business running,
>> because although government jobs are said to be secure, nothing is
>> guaranteed. The shutdown didn't bother me because I still had income to fall
>> back on. If I lose my job tomorrow, I will have six months of savings to
>> actively seek the next best position. Why? Because I have kept my skills up
>> to date, because I have kept a fair professional network intact, and because
>> I understand the ability to create positions for myself through the
>> consulting capacity that a lot of Americans pursued after the economic
>> decline several years ago. I say that in hopes people will be angered enough
>> to try new strategies to find their next job. Remember it's usually the
>> first one that's the toughest to obtain. If an idiot like me can steadily
>> increase his income, you can do it better.
>> 
>> It's easy to say there are more people looking for jobs than there are jobs
>> to fill. Unfortunately that oversimplifies the argument into one of quantity
>> without fully looking at quality. The people who get chosen are the ones who
>> make the cut, and that's true no matter the condition of the economy. The
>> concern should not be the sheer number of people competing for the jobs you
>> wish you had. It's what you've been doing to separate yourself from those
>> numbers.
>> 
>> Ashley,
>> 
>> Right on about volunteering. I completed a year of AmeriCorps. During that
>> year I pushed myself into areas outside of my responsibilities and learned a
>> valuable skill that played a key role in landing my first real job. Anything
>> you can do to fill your resume is viewed positively.
>> 
>> Minh,
>> 
>> I don't agree with Tyler's points, but I can see where he's coming from.
>> Yet, it's exactly your mentality I can't process. This notion that we as
>> blind people will always be at a disadvantage when compared to people who
>> need no accommodations drives me crazy, because it assumes no matter what we
>> do, we will always be viewed as second class citizens when compared to our
>> sighted peers. An employer is not thinking about the state of the economy
>> when she is looking to hire someone to fill a role. All she cares about is
>> finding the right person to do the job she needs completed. We're going to
>> need accommodations no matter the economy, so either we are competitive, or
>> we are not. I don't buy the logic that somehow the dim economy makes things
>> significantly worse for us.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
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