[nabs-l] Fwd: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training

Fri Oct 11 19:35:19 UTC 2013

Glad to hear Vanderbuilt still has a program!  :)  I saw the list of
which Greg spoke of this morning.  The link is below; however, I do
not know if it is complete as I did not see Louisiana Tech on the list
and know they have a strong program.

http://www.teachingvisuallyimpaired.com/professional-preparation-programs.html

On 10/11/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
> Whoa whoa.  To be a certified TVI program you have to include coursework in
> braille.  I would be very surprised to discover any programs that don't
> include a braille course.  The quality of these courses will vary from
> program to program and some programs include more braille courses than
> others.  This kind of project would be done much easier if the student
> already had a relationship with a program, either knew a student or a
> professor who indicated there was a need in the area.
> Teachblindstudents.org used to maintain a list of the teacher prep programs
> in the country but I did not see it at first glance on the website.  You
> would really need to look at the course catalog for each program to
> determine the number of braille courses.  To determine their quality you
> would have to get a syllabus or talk to people who had gone through that
> program.
>
> I would recommend jointing the professionals in blindness education list and
> asking if there are professionals who have recently graduated who would be
> willing to discuss their preparation in the area of braille.
>
> And… Vanderbilt indeed still has a program.  I graduated from it last
> August.  :)
>
> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
> Cobb County School District
> gpaikens at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2013, at 10:34 PM, minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Arielle,
>>
>> On the same thought, who does the accrediting anyway? Is it a group
>> comprising of prominent authorities in the field that actually know
>> what they are talking about? I know UMass Boston has a TVI/O&M program
>> that, from what I heard is fairly decent. Another possible research
>> topic that JJ could look into is actually collecting personal opinions
>> from TVI's to see if they feel like their program effectively prepared
>> them to teach students braille.
>> Minh
>>
>> On 10/10/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Can I just ask, How can a TVI training program be accredited in this
>>> country that doesn't even teach the teachers Braille? Isn't Braille
>>> like the whole essence of specialized instruction for the blind?
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/10/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Also, what he might do is look at TVI training programs and examine
>>>> how much braille they actually teach.
>>>>
>>>> The TVI I had from kindergarten through the 8th grade was very old
>>>> school in her teaching and knew her stuff really well.  She went to
>>>> vanderbuilt to study braille, (I am not sure Vanderbuilt has a program
>>>> any more) and said that when she was tested on the code she was
>>>> blindfolded and told to braille signs on the Perkins Brailler.  That
>>>> was how the professors at Vanderbuilt made sure their students were
>>>> proficient in braille.  I don't know if she had to read it with her
>>>> fingers or not, but she could write it really well even years later as
>>>> a TVI.  She was fabulous, and I'm not saying there aren't fabulous
>>>> TVIs out there today because I know a lot who are, but I'm not sure if
>>>> that kind of proficiency is being stressed in all schools.
>>>>
>>>> It also might be interesting to consider the decline of standards in
>>>> TVI education, or research that even if it's just one part of the
>>>> report.
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think North Carolina does not teach braille; but be sure I am right
>>>>> before
>>>>> you use that.   I remember hearing something to that effect.  If I am
>>>>> wrong,
>>>>> someone please correct me.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
>>>>> Silverman
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:49 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas for JJ?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: JJ Aragon <mistyluna at fastmail.fm>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:40:22 -0600
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training
>>>>> To: cabs at nfbnet.org, jbeecham at cocenter.org, slabarre at labarrelaw.com,
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>> Bonderson <lbonderson at labarrelaw.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>>  For my English class I have been asked to write an 8-page  researched
>>>>>  proposal. This proposal must address an educational issue within a
>>>>>  specified school/state/district. I would like to find a TVI college
>>>>>  training program that lacks in Braille training and propose an
>>>>>  improved curriculum. I'm having trouble narrowing down and finding
>>>>>  such a program, though. Can any of you think of a TVI program that I
>>>>>  could write about? Your input would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>  Please know that this paper is for my and my teacher's use only. Feel
>>>>>  free to share your experiences/annecdotes. I will not use anything
>>>>> you
>>>>>  share without your permission. Also, please forward this message to
>>>>>  anyone you think could help.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> JJ Aragon - University of Northern Colorado ...Addicted to the written
>>>>> word...
>>>>>
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