[nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes

Tue Sep 3 21:29:01 UTC 2013

Tell the disability office and see what they say.  

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Suzanne Germano
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:28 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes

I agree. She would not give me a reason which leads me to believe she is
just lazy and does not want to do anything extra.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Sophie Trist
<sweetpeareader at gmail.com>wrote:

> Suzanne, I don't believe that what your professor is doing is fair to you.
> Besides the loss of peer and professor interaction, you lose valuable 
> time in class. This causes you to have more to do at home than your 
> fellow classmates. I know that extra homework is sometimes a necessary 
> evil, but in this case, it can be avoided so easily. I don't see why 
> your professor can't either print it out in large print or provide you 
> with an electronic copy. These are just my thoughts.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:22:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes
>
> I have had most instructors willing to print out my copy in large 
> print but this semester I have one professor who does not want to. She 
> would rather I take it home. These are open book in classes every 
> class assignments. You have to look things up. It is not expected that 
> you know it. For example taking several different 32 digit binary 
> numbers and convert them to the corresponding assembly language 
> instruction so we need to refer to text or our notes etc.
>
> I have asked her to provide me an electronic copy ahead of class, send 
> to to DRC to have them large printed, print it out herself enlarged, 
> have her undergraduate TA take it to a copy machine and enlarge on 
> 11x17.I would prefer large print on 11x17. She said she would rather 
> just give it to me in class, then  I deal with getting it enlarged or 
> use my CCTV at home and bring it back next class.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do tests in two ways. It it is a scheduled test, I get it sent to 
> the disability office to be made sure it is completely accessible, 
> including language settings, tables, alt tags for graphics. I don't 
> usually use double time unless there are many tactile images, like 
> there were in Biology, or I have to read it in Braille, like for 
> mathematics, since I am a slow Braille reader. Doing the test in the 
> disability office ensures that I have someone available if there are 
> problems. I schedule to take the test at the same time as everyone else
unless I mean double time.
> If it is a pop quiz, the professor puts his or her digital copy of the 
> quiz on a flash drive that I provide. The professors know from the 
> beginning of the semester that this is how we will do it, so they have 
> the digital copy ready. I put the flash drive in my laptop, put my 
> answers in the digital copy, then turn in the flash drive when the 
> other student's turn in their tests. The professor moves the file to 
> their computer and returns the flash drive by the end of class. They 
> can then print it or grade it in the digital file, and give me the 
> graded paper or file. If they grade it digitally, they usually email 
> it to me. I prefer this to cut back on the paper I have to keep up with.
> I hope this method makes sense to you and it helps you figure out the 
> best method for yourself. Also, I use JAWS to do this, though for 
> language class I sometimes use my refreshable Braille display so I can 
> see accents and spelling.
> -Jewel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>
> I have two course that at least weekly if no every lecture have in 
> class quizzes or assignments. These are open book ,open notes, talk 
> with other students, ask professor questions...
>
> How do you handle these. For example, are they provided to you in 
> large print, braille, electronic? What if you are someone use uses 
> extended time on things like tests? What about the access to books? At 
> home I use the print book with my cctv so I can flip to index then 
> flip to page. This is not the same with the pdf. Also my monitor at 
> home is 27 inches vs 17 on my laptop so I am much faster on the large 
> monitor. I have always been a print reader and do not do well at all 
> with audio. Since my vision is stable there was never a need to not 
> use large print or cctv. I also find it difficult to work with other 
> students since I can't see their work and even when I say I am legally 
> blind or visually impaired and ask if they can write bigger, they 
> still write in their normal size which is  too small and with very 
> like pencil.
>
> What are your techniques? Do you do it in class with an accessible 
> format?
> Do you take it home and return it next class?
>
> When I went to school years ago 1980s-1990s they did not do all this 
> in class stuff.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Suzanne
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