[nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes

Wed Sep 4 02:05:41 UTC 2013

Disabled student services must have talked with her because I got a large
print copy today.

When I met with her before the semester started she never said why she
would not email it right before class.

I think she will find the few seconds it takes her to print out mine with a
larger font will make life easier on her in the long run since she won't be
grading mine separately a few days after the rest of the class.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Arielle Silverman <Arielle.Silverman at asu.edu
> wrote:

> Hi Suzanne and all,
>
> If you are allowed to talk with classmates about your answers, why not
> have the quiz sent to you before class, then bring it with you to
> class and discuss with other students? Or, is there a way you can use
> a program like ZoomText to enlarge the electronic text so you can see
> it on your laptop?
>
> Arielle
>
> On 9/3/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tell the disability office and see what they say.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Suzanne
> > Germano
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:28 PM
> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes
> >
> > I agree. She would not give me a reason which leads me to believe she is
> > just lazy and does not want to do anything extra.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Sophie Trist
> > <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Suzanne, I don't believe that what your professor is doing is fair to
> >> you.
> >> Besides the loss of peer and professor interaction, you lose valuable
> >> time in class. This causes you to have more to do at home than your
> >> fellow classmates. I know that extra homework is sometimes a necessary
> >> evil, but in this case, it can be avoided so easily. I don't see why
> >> your professor can't either print it out in large print or provide you
> >> with an electronic copy. These are just my thoughts.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu
> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:22:26 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] In class assignments and popquizzes
> >>
> >> I have had most instructors willing to print out my copy in large
> >> print but this semester I have one professor who does not want to. She
> >> would rather I take it home. These are open book in classes every
> >> class assignments. You have to look things up. It is not expected that
> >> you know it. For example taking several different 32 digit binary
> >> numbers and convert them to the corresponding assembly language
> >> instruction so we need to refer to text or our notes etc.
> >>
> >> I have asked her to provide me an electronic copy ahead of class, send
> >> to to DRC to have them large printed, print it out herself enlarged,
> >> have her undergraduate TA take it to a copy machine and enlarge on
> >> 11x17.I would prefer large print on 11x17. She said she would rather
> >> just give it to me in class, then  I deal with getting it enlarged or
> >> use my CCTV at home and bring it back next class.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I do tests in two ways. It it is a scheduled test, I get it sent to
> >> the disability office to be made sure it is completely accessible,
> >> including language settings, tables, alt tags for graphics. I don't
> >> usually use double time unless there are many tactile images, like
> >> there were in Biology, or I have to read it in Braille, like for
> >> mathematics, since I am a slow Braille reader. Doing the test in the
> >> disability office ensures that I have someone available if there are
> >> problems. I schedule to take the test at the same time as everyone else
> > unless I mean double time.
> >> If it is a pop quiz, the professor puts his or her digital copy of the
> >> quiz on a flash drive that I provide. The professors know from the
> >> beginning of the semester that this is how we will do it, so they have
> >> the digital copy ready. I put the flash drive in my laptop, put my
> >> answers in the digital copy, then turn in the flash drive when the
> >> other student's turn in their tests. The professor moves the file to
> >> their computer and returns the flash drive by the end of class. They
> >> can then print it or grade it in the digital file, and give me the
> >> graded paper or file. If they grade it digitally, they usually email
> >> it to me. I prefer this to cut back on the paper I have to keep up with.
> >> I hope this method makes sense to you and it helps you figure out the
> >> best method for yourself. Also, I use JAWS to do this, though for
> >> language class I sometimes use my refreshable Braille display so I can
> >> see accents and spelling.
> >> -Jewel
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have two course that at least weekly if no every lecture have in
> >> class quizzes or assignments. These are open book ,open notes, talk
> >> with other students, ask professor questions...
> >>
> >> How do you handle these. For example, are they provided to you in
> >> large print, braille, electronic? What if you are someone use uses
> >> extended time on things like tests? What about the access to books? At
> >> home I use the print book with my cctv so I can flip to index then
> >> flip to page. This is not the same with the pdf. Also my monitor at
> >> home is 27 inches vs 17 on my laptop so I am much faster on the large
> >> monitor. I have always been a print reader and do not do well at all
> >> with audio. Since my vision is stable there was never a need to not
> >> use large print or cctv. I also find it difficult to work with other
> >> students since I can't see their work and even when I say I am legally
> >> blind or visually impaired and ask if they can write bigger, they
> >> still write in their normal size which is  too small and with very
> >> like pencil.
> >>
> >> What are your techniques? Do you do it in class with an accessible
> >> format?
> >> Do you take it home and return it next class?
> >>
> >> When I went to school years ago 1980s-1990s they did not do all this
> >> in class stuff.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Suzanne
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