[nabs-l] Animal observation and experiment for biology class

Mon Sep 23 02:44:36 UTC 2013

We use turning point. I have the clicker set to the channel at the start of
class and it is the only class I use a clicker for.

For some reason when I answer the question (which is multiple choice) there
have been several time it end up on the change channel screen.

I may ask for print outs and ask if I can just circle my answer. I don't
know if she will think I will cheat since after every one enters their
answer she tells the correct one.

I don't use readers or note-takers. I only use a lab aid in biology

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Anna Givens <annajee82 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Suzanne,
> What school do you go to and what clicker do you use?
>
> For one thing, there are accessible clickers.  I don't know much about it,
> as I have never used one.  And if this is the only class you're taking with
> clicker questions, you may not care to look into using one.  But for future
> reference if you want, look into it.  There is iClicker, and there is
> TurningPoint or Turning Technology.
>
> As for now, I would highly recommend talking to your professor about the
> questions you have missed. This happened to me.  I kept missing them
> because there was so little time and I wasn't prepared to deal with that.
>  So to get credit for the ones I missed, I just talked to him and explained
> the situation.  I suggested a way to make up for the missed points, to ask
> me questions, either during their office time or just before or after
> lecture that were similar to the clicker questions, and then if I get it
> right, just add those points to grade somewhere or go back and change the
> points for missed clicker questions.  Or I could do some sort of extra
> credit.  That's what happened and it worked out fine.
> I hope you are in close contact with your professor.  And I hope you are
> communicating all these accessibility situations to him/her.  Often the
> professor will have a great alternative.  As for the rest of the clicker
> questions throughout the rest of your current class, I would have someone
> help you with entering the responses on the clicker, as it is not fair to
> not be able to make sure your response is accurate and has been sent
> successfully.  You should be able to enter the channel before class ever
> starts.  I would enter the channel when I got to class that way it already
> knows what channel I was on and didn't ask me when I was trying to enter
> information.   There may be a way to lock in the channel so you don't have
> to enter it, as someone suggested, u might want to look into that. That
> would certainly be the easiest thing, if that is the only class you are
> using it for.  But if you are using it for more than one class, enter the
> channel before class starts and it should
>   not be an issue when you are doing the question.  Then like I said, for
> the question, have a TA or a reader from DSS or your own reader help you
> with seeing the screen.  Of course if you are just doing multiple choice
> answers, it may not be a big deal, but if you are entering numeric
> information, I think it's good to be able to double check the screen, and
> depending on which clicker your school uses, you will need help with
> entering the numeric info.  I would suggest not using a student next to you
> to help you with it though, as these questions typically only give a very
> short time period to answer, and each student needs that limited time to
> figure out the answer and enter it for themselves.
>
> As far as getting access to the actual question, you could have your
> professor print out the question and give it to you in large font every day
> when he puts it up on the board.  Sit in front so if they forget, you can
> raise your hand or whatever to remind them to give it to you.  If they
> forget to print it out for you, they either will just use the questions as
> review and not give anyone points for that day or they will do something to
> let u get those missed points as they will be aware that it is not your
> fault that you missed it.   I used to email my professors the day or
> morning before each class politely reminding them, towards the beginning of
> the semester.  I think that might be a good option for you.  Or you could
> possibly have them email it to you before class or something.  Or you could
> use a reader for the question as well.
> One way to get around this is to have the clicker questions on an
> accessible website, which some schools do.  I don't know how complicated of
> a process it is to set that up but if nothing else, you could suggest it to
> your professor for future reference.
>
> As for your lab.  I think there have been some very good suggestions.  One
> thing that always comes to mind is - Get a reader.  Pay someone to describe
> something for you, you might be able to get someone from DSS to do this.
> The option that I personally would take however, is what Arielle said - do
> something that does not require sight. If my understanding of your
> assignment is correct, I don't know why you need to involve vision in it at
> all, unless you just want to.
> Working with another student is also something you could ask your teacher
> about I suppose.  Good luck.  And let us know what you decide.
>
> Anna E Givens
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if there is a way to lock the channel on the clicker so you
> > can't accidentally get kicked out of the channel you need to be in?
> > Arielle
> >
> > On 9/22/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
> >> Our clicker questions are every lecture and count toward our grade. She
> has
> >> read the questions out loud but quickly and they are biology genetics
> stuff
> >> so I usually need to reread and make sure I have all the data right
> before
> >> doing my punnet squares or come up with the answer.
> >>
> >> Most of the time the questions were not super long so I had time to
> reread
> >> and calculate.
> >>
> >> There have been several times I enter my answer and my screen says
> change
> >> channel? I need to get out magnifier which takes a few seconds to turn
> on
> >> then go through the menu on the clicker o make sure the channel is still
> >> right, get back to the place ot answer then answer. The channel is often
> >> wrong because it took my answer entry as my input for new channel.
> >>
> >> I have 2 days with no answers registered when got all four each day
> >> correct.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke
> >> <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Suzanne,
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure if each college or university uses the clicker questions
> in
> >>> the same manner, but I can describe how I have been able to use them
> >>> while
> >>> attending a community college.
> >>>
> >>> The professor who uses the clicker questions only uses them for review
> >>> questions and poll questions. Therefore, if a student is not able to
> >>> participate, or does not wish to participate, it does not effect their
> >>> grade.
> >>>
> >>> In the past, the professor handed out the clickers during class. They
> >>> were
> >>> not all that complicated as they had a layout similar to a telephone
> >>> keypad. However, this semester students can use either a cell phone to
> >>> text
> >>> the answer, or log into the survey website with their laptop computers.
> >>>
> >>> In either case, the professor reads both the question and the answers
> >>> aloud so I can follow along with what the rest of the class is doing.
> >>> When
> >>> the professor used the clickers, all I had to do was press the button
> >>> that
> >>> corresponded with the answer while pointing it in the direction of my
> >>> professor.
> >>>
> >>> I do not know if every school uses the clickers in this same manner,
> but
> >>> this is how I was able to deal with the situation. Alternative methods
> >>> may
> >>> be to ask a student sitting next to you to read the question and the
> >>> answers, or perhaps a reader from the disabilities office if they
> provide
> >>> such a service.
> >>>
> >>> Even though I have had usable vision for most of my life, I have found
> >>> non-visual techniques to be the most effective and efficient for me.
> >>> Perhaps you may wish to give some of them a try.
> >>>
> >>> Warm regards,
> >>> Elizabeth
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------**--------------------
> >>> From: "Suzanne Germano" <sgermano at asu.edu>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:03 PM
> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
> >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Animal observation and experiment for biology class
> >>>
> >>> I am taking general biology as a lab science requirement. We have to
> >>>> observe an animal then design and experiment and then perform the
> >>>> experiment. An example that one person is doing is what percentage of
> >>>> time
> >>>> do duck go in the water based on temperature. We cannot do pets.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have people sitting around doing nothing waiting drive me
> >>>> somewhere
> >>>> and to be my eyes and observe and animal several times.
> >>>>
> >>>> Have any of you had to do something like this? What did you find the
> >>>> best
> >>>> solution to be?
> >>>>
> >>>> Also clicker questions. How do you deal with them? I use a cctv to see
> >>>> the
> >>>> board and even with that I can't read long questions fast enough. And
> >>>> there
> >>>> have been several times my clicker goes into change channel mode when
> I
> >>>> select an answer. I can't read the clicker display or the buttons. I
> >>>> have
> >>>> to get out my hand held cctv to read the screen and get it out of
> change
> >>>> channel mode by the time I fix it time is up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Suzanne
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