[nabs-l] international students

Wed Dec 3 03:12:31 UTC 2014

Kaiti this is extremely true.
I agree with you. Ones we start with students, we can expend it to all
international people.

2014-12-02 21:13 GMT-05:00, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
> Elif and all,
>
> Way to go for bringing this important topic to the forefront!
>
> Chris mentioned that he did not see the need for an international
> student division at this time, but what about an international
> division of some sort that falls under the NFB in general?  I'm sure
> there are plenty of general members of the NFB who are already
> degree-qualified, who probably struggle with some of the same issues
> such as learning the culture, finding where and how to get groceries,
> learning the currency system, etc.  Though I am not an international
> student, I have talked to Elif a fair amount as we're from the same
> state student division, and I would imaging those cultural things have
> an added component of complexity for all who are blind.  I see two
> separate issues here rather than one; the first is learning how to
> access accommodations in the U.S, which can be tricky depending on
> individual circumstances and the home country in question, and the
> cultural stuff.  Maybe some blind adults from other countries have
> advice for current students based on their experiences?  I think it
> would be more beneficial to reach out not just to international
> students, but international people in the NFB in general.  I see this
> as yielding the most information for all involved.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> On 12/2/14, Darian via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> All:
>> I believe this is a fabulous thing that is being discussed.
>> I am personally glad to hear that there is such an interest in
>> issues/Concerns having to do with international students.
>> If there's any way that I might be of assistance in this regard, please
>> feel
>> free to let me know.
>> Best of luck in connecting, learning, and sharing.
>> Darian
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Elif Emir Öksüz via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Getting together and talking is my priority right now.
>>> Then we can decide for further steps.
>>> I'm so glad that more people responded this e-mail.
>>> NABSboard, thanks for your interest.
>>> Guys, when do you have time, when can we talk?
>>> we are not much, we can do a Skype call.
>>> or let me know your suggestions.
>>> Elif
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-11-29 22:39 GMT-05:00, Cindy Bennett via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
>>>> Hi Chris et al,
>>>>
>>>> First, I am CCing Candice Chapman on this message. She is the
>>>> treasurer of NABS and the membership chair.
>>>>
>>>> I think that this is an excellent discussion (although I have not
>>>> followed it thoroughly). One thing we do to engage membership is
>>>> through membership calls. If a call would interest students, I am sure
>>>> that Candice and the NABS board would love to hear about this directly
>>>> and am also sure that something could be organized. I am excited to
>>>> learn that students are interested in this topic as it is one that I
>>>> am vastly unaware about. I for one would have no idea how to advise an
>>>> international student, or international blind student for that matter,
>>>> as I am completely ignorant of the rights one has if they are an
>>>> international student regarding accommodations. I think that a call
>>>> led by some international students who are well versed in
>>>> international student rights and experienced with advocating for
>>>> themselves would be excellent. I am also on the Slate committee, and I
>>>> think that publishing an article about some of the unique challenges
>>>> experienced by international students would be a great addition to our
>>>> newsletter. So, if you fall into the Slate category and want to share
>>>> your story, please email me or the chair of the Slate committee, Cody
>>>> Bair at codyjbair at yahoo.com.
>>>>
>>>> Candice is CC-ed, but you can email her directly at
>>>> chapman.candicel at gmail.com.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/29/14, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> An initial conference call for this might be a great place to start.
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> this can also expand to a meeting at national convention for
>>>>> international
>>>>> students and those who are interested in issues which are of concern
>>>>> to
>>>>> them. While I don't see the need for a new NFB division being formed
>>>>> for
>>>>> international students, as this (in my opinion) falls under the NABS
>>>>> umbrella, the potential could be there for a subgroup within NABS
>>>>> and/or
>>>>> and
>>>>> informal discussion group which has its meetings via conference call
>>>>> and
>>>>> at
>>>>> national convention. Just throwing out some ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Vice President
>>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of
>>>>> Maryland
>>>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98, @MDMDABS and @NFBMD
>>>>>
>>>>> "Together, with love, hope and determination, we transform dreams into
>>>>> reality."
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:03 PM, siddhi desai via nabs-l
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Elif and all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems to be a great idea! I am from India too and faced many
>>>>>> challenges post-arrival in USA. We could  surely plan a conference!
>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>> Siddhi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/30/14, Miso Kwak via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Elif and all,
>>>>>>> Joining the party a bit late, but I am also interested in advocating
>>>>>>> for and helping out international students in the U.S.
>>>>>>> I am Miso, a sophomore attending University of California Los
>>>>>>> Angeles,
>>>>>>> majoring in psychology and minoring in disability studies and
>>>>>>> education. I am originally from South Korea and have been in the
>>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>>> for about 7 years now.
>>>>>>> Please feel free to email me off list and I agree with Kartik that
>>>>>>> conference may be a good idea.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Miso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Kartik Sawhney via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: Elif Emir <filerime at gmail.com>; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>> Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 8:11 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] international students
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Elif,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm Kartik. I'm a sophomore at Stanford University studying Computer
>>>>>>> Science. I'm from India. I've been thinking on similar lines for
>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> sometime now, and I think it'll be awesome to chat more about it to
>>>>>>> see what we can do together. Same goes for anyone (international or
>>>>>>> not) who is interested. Let's plan a conference to discuss this
>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the meanwhile, Elif, feel free to reach out, or share your
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/11/14, Elif Emir via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well I admit that I got more accommodation's here than I had back
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Turkey in terms of the accessible course materials. This is
>>>>>>>> wonderful.
>>>>>>>> The problem is being lack of social support which can be a back up
>>>>>>>> when there is no accommodation.
>>>>>>>> Plus this is a huge culture shock.
>>>>>>>> In this situation it is very hard to locate in a new country, lern
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> and where to do shopping, find a way for transportation, how to
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>> for a cab, learn the naberhood and campus to navegate
>>>>>>>> independently,
>>>>>>>> discover the food, brands, health system, learn how to recognize
>>>>>>>> dollar bills and coin, write a check, so and so.
>>>>>>>> an international student has to figure all these out very shortly
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> order to survive. Blindness and language make this harder. So some
>>>>>>>> daily living assistance at the beginning would be very cool.
>>>>>>>> Anyway, if there is any international students here please reach
>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>> We can advocate for future generations together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-11-11 0:29 GMT-05:00, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is definitely dialog which should happen.  I think that
>>>>>>>>> domestic
>>>>>>>>> students also have a lot to learn from international students, and
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> could all benefit from more open communication.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, do tell us what you think we could do to help, but also
>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>>> to speak up.  I was totally unaware of the lack of accommodations
>>>>>>>>> available to students who are not U.S citizens until very
>>>>>>>>> recently,
>>>>>>>>> and I doubt I'm the only one who isn't very knowledgeable on this.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> you have ideas based on what you did for accommodations in your
>>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>> country that you think could help students in the U.S, share those
>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think If we're all open and provide helpful suggestions,
>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>> will benefit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/14, zeynep sule yilmaz via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Elif, that's a great topic to talk about here too. I'm asking all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> NABS members. How NABS can support international students better?
>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>> there any idea? Most of us had or still have some problems
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> being international student. This may be lack of the information
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> resources that are available to American sitizens with
>>>>>>> disabilities. I
>>>>>>>>>> know that being a strong self-advocate is always what we would
>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>> however, we need support from native students sometimes.  I would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> to know, if any of the NABS members have any idea on that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Zeynep
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2014-11-10 13:02 GMT-06:00, Darian Smith via nabs-l
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> We have an "International Students" E-mail list that can be
>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>>> the  collection of list serves  of the NFB at www.nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nfbnet.org/>.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure there are international students on the NABS list, but
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>>>>>>> there are more of them on the International  Students List.
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hope this is helpful to you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Elif Emir via nabs-l
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> My name is Elif.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a graduate student from Turkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering how many international students are we in this
>>>>>>> group?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or is there anyone who knows about an international blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> student
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a member of this e-mail group?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you contact me from here my personal e-mail to discuss
>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation's we have, problems spessific to international
>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>>>>>>> and adjustment issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to get together online, and talk to each other and
>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>> other about these internationally spessific issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elif Emir Oksuz
>>>>>>>>>>>> filerime at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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