[nabs-l] Braille music

marissa pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 13:30:28 UTC 2014


So am I.  If they don't do a voice I don't like, I hate them.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 06:52:07 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

Wow.  I did not know web braille merged with Bard.  Just shows 
you how
infrequently I use the service.  I used NLS a lot in high school, 
but
since college, I almost never use them.  I rarely ever read 
music,
prefering to learn everything by ear since I have perfect pitch 
and
can learn a piece in, at most, 30 minutes, and as far as regular 
audio
books go, I prefer to buy them because the readers are usually 
better.
 I'm very picky about my readers.

Ryan

On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:

 I do not know if I'm signed up.  I think I am, since I received 
a
 digital talking book player.


  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 05:56:15 -0600
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

 Hi Marissa.  I don't know why you wouldn't want to be signed up
 with
 NLS as you can get so many books from them.  What you can do, is
 contact your local talking book library and just ask for either
 talking books, or braille materials from them.  But first, you
 need to
 be signed up with NLS first.  I've been getting books from NLS
 since I
 was probably about four or five.

 On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


  i do play piano as well as clarinet, (self taught), so I might
  look in to the clasical music.  I have emailed the Special Ed
  Director a very long email, telling him how I need music ASAP
  because I have a band festival that my band teacher wants me to
  go to.  I see no point if I have no music.  I cannot play by 
ear
  because the students will not hush when the director is trying
 to
  explain something, and they will not hush when playing,
  (percussion really).
  I basically told him I need a transcriber, a music book to get
  started, and a braille music tutor.  He never replied, but told
  me that they need to find the money to get these things.  Ugh.

   ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:48:26 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

  Hi,

  While Web Braille did merge with bard, the concept of it is
 still
  the
  same.  A lot of the music there is classical stuff, songs for
  voice,
  piano pieces, a few scores of string pieces and chamber group
  stuff,
  but not much in the way of clarinet stuff at all, or at least
 the
  last
  time I checked there wasn't.  For high school band pieces 
you'll
  definitely need to use a transcriber.  The only pieces I've 
been
  able
  to get through NLS have been pieces of standard clarinet
  repertoire
  like works from Webber, Mozart, etc.  NLS is great for getting
  these
  things because you can often get them in the mail faster than a
  transcriber  can go through them, and it's already embossed 
into
  nice
  hard copy braille for you.

  As per calling the library, I used to be terrified of calling
  anywhere
  to ask for help, but frankly it's a life skill that I'm glad I
  developed.  You will need to call and be professional on the
  phone
  many times when you're an adult, so it's best to start forming
  good
  habits when you're young.  The library is a good place to start
  with
  this because as Ryan said the librarians are very nice, helpful
  people
  who already know you're a visually impaired person, so there
  aren't
  any awkward explanations required while you're still getting
 your
  feet
  wet.  It's much easier than calling and having to start by
  talking to
  a shady customer service rep who works for the metro like my O
  and M
  instructor made me do to develop this skill.  :)

  Good luck,

  On 2/6/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
   ryan,
   nope.  web braille merged with bard a year ago.  so now you go
  to the bard
   site to download all media.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Ryan Silveira
   Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:15 PM
   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music


   Yes.  The other option, for some books, is to download them
 from
  their site.
   It's called Web braille.  I don't know how to use it because I
  never have
   done, but basically, if you're registered, you search what you
  want and then
   download the file.  You can then import it into Duxbury,
 already
  in Braille
   format and emboss it.  I don't know how many books they have 
in
  that format.
   Mostly, I think, it's just individual pieces (Beethoven's 
Ninth
  Simphony,
   for instance), but they may have some full books on there.  I
  don't know.
   Mostly, though, you will need to call them.  Don't be shy.
  They're wicked
   nice and very helpful.

   Ryan

   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:49 PM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


   So every time I want a braille book, I have to call NLS?


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:20:15 -0600
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

   I know.  Sadly, they don EURO (tm)t.

   Ryan

   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:15 PM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


   Wow.  They really should make it accessable to just put in a
  form to send
   the book.  Make it a lot easer on people.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:07:50 -0600
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

   I don
    EURO (tm)t think so.  I think you will have to call them.  I
  mean, if you
   really, really didn
    EURO (tm)t want to call them, I wouldn
    EURO (tm)t mind shipping you my copy since I haven
    EURO (tm)t used it in years.  While Richard Tesh
    EURO (tm)s book is very good, I think the Primer is the best
  one to use.  If
   you think back to elementary school and those very basic
 grammar
  books
   that everyone uses in first and second grade
    EURO "that
    EURO (tm)s pretty much what the Primer of Braille Music is.
 It
    EURO (tm)s the book most every blind musician I know uses
  first.  I wouldn
    EURO (tm)t say no to getting both, though.  Then you could
 take
  what you choose

   from both sources.

   Ryan


   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


   Ok, so now I've heard of three different books for starting
  braille music.

   So confusing.
   "An Introduction to Braille Music" by Richard Tesh.
   the one you listed
   and a third, which I cannot place the name of right now, but I
  know what
   it is called.  It was on another topic, "reading  braille
 music"
  on this
   list.

   Yes, I have never used the library.  Is there a way to contact
  them by
   email, and have the book sent to me by mail, instead of having
  to call
   them?


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:55:03 -0600
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

   Hi Marissa,

   It would be a bit difficult to actually send you an attachment
  with the
   braille music code.  I could send you something that lists the
  code (e.g.
   8th note C = dots 1 4 5), but even if I listed all the notes,
  that
    's just the very tip of the iceberg.  In order to read high
  school band
   music reasonably well, you
    'd need a whole lot more than just the very basics.  What you
  need is the

   Primer of Braille Music.  That
    's the best book there is for learning braille music.  You 
can
  get it
   from NLS (National Library Service) at the Library of 
Congress.
  I can
    't remember if it was you who said you never use them, but if
  it was, you

   should.  They
    're a great resource.  If you contact their music division 
and
  ask for
   the Primer of Braille Music, that would be your best source 
for
  starting
   to learn braille music.  Then, if you
    're serious, there are two summer programs into which you
 could
  look.
   There is Braille Beats in Michigan, which is a very good
 program
  for
   fairly serious blind musicians.  If you are really, really
  serious, to the

   point where you are seriously considering studying music in
  college, there

   is the Summer Braille Music Institute, run by the National
  Resource Center

   for Blind Musicians which is held in July in Philladelphia.
 The
  National
   Resource Center for Blind Musicians is excellent.  I know the
  director
   really well and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
  Feel free to

   e-mail me off-list if you want to discuss further.


   Ryan


   On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:40 PM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


   Allright, so here's the deal.
   I got my music from my band director and gave it to the 
Special
  Ed
   Director, who then gave a coppy to one of my TVIS, who is
  sending it to
   the braille institute to have it brailled apparently.
   That is great, yes, but I cannot read it.

   Could someone please find an index of all music notes and
 either
  send me a

   link, or send me an attatchment? I can send it to my 
brailleest
  and she
   can braille it for me.

   Also, is there a way to get books from the nabs library 
without
  having to
   call them?

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