[nabs-l] Braille music
Jane
juanitatighan at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 19:21:43 UTC 2014
I tend to "check out" books from the BARD site and read them or listen to them that way. If I like them and I have the money, I will buy the Audible or Kindle or iBooks versions and delete the BARD versions--in most cases, anyway. If I had the money, I would subscribe to The Economist, because I find that to be a fascinating listen. I think it's neat that they let us have access ot it at no cost, but it would be nice to support it.
Jane
On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ryan,
> I agree that buying audio books is better for the quality of readers. However, that said, I use nls more because its free and so much easier to use than regular mainstream sites. Buying audiobooks could add up and I'm trying to save money. but I will buy some of my favorites through itunes soon.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Silveira
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 7:52 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
> Wow. I did not know web braille merged with Bard. Just shows you how
> infrequently I use the service. I used NLS a lot in high school, but
> since college, I almost never use them. I rarely ever read music,
> prefering to learn everything by ear since I have perfect pitch and
> can learn a piece in, at most, 30 minutes, and as far as regular audio
> books go, I prefer to buy them because the readers are usually better.
> I'm very picky about my readers.
>
> Ryan
>
> On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I do not know if I'm signed up. I think I am, since I received a
>> digital talking book player.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 05:56:15 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> Hi Marissa. I don't know why you wouldn't want to be signed up
>> with
>> NLS as you can get so many books from them. What you can do, is
>> contact your local talking book library and just ask for either
>> talking books, or braille materials from them. But first, you
>> need to
>> be signed up with NLS first. I've been getting books from NLS
>> since I
>> was probably about four or five.
>>
>> On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> i do play piano as well as clarinet, (self taught), so I might
>> look in to the clasical music. I have emailed the Special Ed
>> Director a very long email, telling him how I need music ASAP
>> because I have a band festival that my band teacher wants me to
>> go to. I see no point if I have no music. I cannot play by ear
>> because the students will not hush when the director is trying
>> to
>> explain something, and they will not hush when playing,
>> (percussion really).
>> I basically told him I need a transcriber, a music book to get
>> started, and a braille music tutor. He never replied, but told
>> me that they need to find the money to get these things. Ugh.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:48:26 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While Web Braille did merge with bard, the concept of it is
>> still
>> the
>> same. A lot of the music there is classical stuff, songs for
>> voice,
>> piano pieces, a few scores of string pieces and chamber group
>> stuff,
>> but not much in the way of clarinet stuff at all, or at least
>> the
>> last
>> time I checked there wasn't. For high school band pieces you'll
>> definitely need to use a transcriber. The only pieces I've been
>> able
>> to get through NLS have been pieces of standard clarinet
>> repertoire
>> like works from Webber, Mozart, etc. NLS is great for getting
>> these
>> things because you can often get them in the mail faster than a
>> transcriber can go through them, and it's already embossed into
>> nice
>> hard copy braille for you.
>>
>> As per calling the library, I used to be terrified of calling
>> anywhere
>> to ask for help, but frankly it's a life skill that I'm glad I
>> developed. You will need to call and be professional on the
>> phone
>> many times when you're an adult, so it's best to start forming
>> good
>> habits when you're young. The library is a good place to start
>> with
>> this because as Ryan said the librarians are very nice, helpful
>> people
>> who already know you're a visually impaired person, so there
>> aren't
>> any awkward explanations required while you're still getting
>> your
>> feet
>> wet. It's much easier than calling and having to start by
>> talking to
>> a shady customer service rep who works for the metro like my O
>> and M
>> instructor made me do to develop this skill. :)
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> On 2/6/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> ryan,
>> nope. web braille merged with bard a year ago. so now you go
>> to the bard
>> site to download all media.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan Silveira
>> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:15 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>>
>> Yes. The other option, for some books, is to download them
>> from
>> their site.
>> It's called Web braille. I don't know how to use it because I
>> never have
>> done, but basically, if you're registered, you search what you
>> want and then
>> download the file. You can then import it into Duxbury,
>> already
>> in Braille
>> format and emboss it. I don't know how many books they have in
>> that format.
>> Mostly, I think, it's just individual pieces (Beethoven's Ninth
>> Simphony,
>> for instance), but they may have some full books on there. I
>> don't know.
>> Mostly, though, you will need to call them. Don't be shy.
>> They're wicked
>> nice and very helpful.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:49 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So every time I want a braille book, I have to call NLS?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:20:15 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> I know. Sadly, they don EURO (tm)t.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:15 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wow. They really should make it accessable to just put in a
>> form to send
>> the book. Make it a lot easer on people.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:07:50 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> I don
>> EURO (tm)t think so. I think you will have to call them. I
>> mean, if you
>> really, really didn
>> EURO (tm)t want to call them, I wouldn
>> EURO (tm)t mind shipping you my copy since I haven
>> EURO (tm)t used it in years. While Richard Tesh
>> EURO (tm)s book is very good, I think the Primer is the best
>> one to use. If
>> you think back to elementary school and those very basic
>> grammar
>> books
>> that everyone uses in first and second grade
>> EURO "that
>> EURO (tm)s pretty much what the Primer of Braille Music is.
>> It
>> EURO (tm)s the book most every blind musician I know uses
>> first. I wouldn
>> EURO (tm)t say no to getting both, though. Then you could
>> take
>> what you choose
>>
>> from both sources.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok, so now I've heard of three different books for starting
>> braille music.
>>
>> So confusing.
>> "An Introduction to Braille Music" by Richard Tesh.
>> the one you listed
>> and a third, which I cannot place the name of right now, but I
>> know what
>> it is called. It was on another topic, "reading braille
>> music"
>> on this
>> list.
>>
>> Yes, I have never used the library. Is there a way to contact
>> them by
>> email, and have the book sent to me by mail, instead of having
>> to call
>> them?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:55:03 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> Hi Marissa,
>>
>> It would be a bit difficult to actually send you an attachment
>> with the
>> braille music code. I could send you something that lists the
>> code (e.g.
>> 8th note C = dots 1 4 5), but even if I listed all the notes,
>> that
>> 's just the very tip of the iceberg. In order to read high
>> school band
>> music reasonably well, you
>> 'd need a whole lot more than just the very basics. What you
>> need is the
>>
>> Primer of Braille Music. That
>> 's the best book there is for learning braille music. You can
>> get it
>> from NLS (National Library Service) at the Library of Congress.
>> I can
>> 't remember if it was you who said you never use them, but if
>> it was, you
>>
>> should. They
>> 're a great resource. If you contact their music division and
>> ask for
>> the Primer of Braille Music, that would be your best source for
>> starting
>> to learn braille music. Then, if you
>> 're serious, there are two summer programs into which you
>> could
>> look.
>> There is Braille Beats in Michigan, which is a very good
>> program
>> for
>> fairly serious blind musicians. If you are really, really
>> serious, to the
>>
>> point where you are seriously considering studying music in
>> college, there
>>
>> is the Summer Braille Music Institute, run by the National
>> Resource Center
>>
>> for Blind Musicians which is held in July in Philladelphia.
>> The
>> National
>> Resource Center for Blind Musicians is excellent. I know the
>> director
>> really well and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
>> Feel free to
>>
>> e-mail me off-list if you want to discuss further.
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:40 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Allright, so here's the deal.
>> I got my music from my band director and gave it to the Special
>> Ed
>> Director, who then gave a coppy to one of my TVIS, who is
>> sending it to
>> the braille institute to have it brailled apparently.
>> That is great, yes, but I cannot read it.
>>
>> Could someone please find an index of all music notes and
>> either
>> send me a
>>
>> link, or send me an attatchment? I can send it to my brailleest
>> and she
>> can braille it for me.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to get books from the nabs library without
>> having to
>> call them?
>>
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