[nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner

Marissa marissat789 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 23 07:42:37 UTC 2014


If you are looking for braille displays, I have attatched a url 
site where I found one for a friend.  He was looking for one, so 
I did a bunch of research and came across this.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com
To: Marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com>, National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:20:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner

Hi to all.  I know that as a college student, I haven't used much
braille, but it is very important to know.  What if people who 
use
computers so much, have their computers break down, then what 
will
they do.  I had to use a perkins brailler to do my math problems.  
How
else would I have done math.  I know braille books I'd love to 
have
like the Harry Potter series, but I don't have the room for the 
books,
and they aren't being produced by the Braille Press anymore, only 
in
ebook format.  If only braille displays would come down in price.  
I'm
hoping to get some state agency to pay for me to have a notetaker 
to
help me in college.  I'm trying to save up for some technology, I
don't know if it will be a braille display or not.  A 40 cell 
display
will cost between $3000, and $5000.  I am so glad I learned 
braille
growing up, I used to read books all the time when I was younger, 
and
have a lot of books I bought from seedlings braille books for
children.  They are one of the best places for getting childrens 
and
young adult books today.  They produce very high quality braille, 
at a
very afordable price.

On 6/23/14, Marissa via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 I agree with this fact about the kids writing looking like
 elementary school kid's writing.

 I am on the BNU list, (as some of you know).  I am 15, but
 because of my writing skills, and the way I write, some people
 have said that they would have thought I was 20 at the youngest
 and 29 or 30 at the oldest.  Someone even said 37, but then we
 got to talking, and he realized that I was funny? Not sure how
 that
 changes that, but alright.


  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>,National
 Association of Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 00:54:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner

 It is impossible for blind people as a whole to put braille on
 the back burner.  I mean, sighties aren't saying, "OMG, who uses
 print anymore? That was so 2004." Without braille, we're
 illiterate.  Braille provides us with more than just a reading
 medium.  When we learn braille, we learn how to spell.  We learn
 the proper usage of words.  In short, we learn all the things
 that
 make us literate.  I have a couple of friends who hate to use
 braille; they pretty much rely solely on screen readers.
 Whenever
 I read anything written by these friends, a little bit of my
 inner English nerd dies inside, but their spelling and use of
 language is ATROCIOUS! These kids are my age, seventeen, yet by
 their writing, you'd think they're elementary school students.  
I
 believe it is our duty as blind people to explain to both our 
own
 and the sighted that without braille, we are illiterate.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Justin Salisbury via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>,
 "NationalAssociation of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:01:45 +0000
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner

 RJ, and everyone:

 I do notice that many people involved in our accommodations
 processes try to argue that Braille is outdated and that we
 should depend on other means to perform academic work.  Many
 service providers do not believe in our capacity to read Braille
 at useful speeds and also think of it as a daunting task to 
learn
 and produce Braille.  I also often find that service providers
 have no understanding of the enhanced levels of reading
 comprehension that we can achieve from Braille versus speech.  I
 think of this as a difference between active reading and passive
 reading.  If I space out while reading Braille, my fingers stop.
 When I was sighted and reading something in print, my eyes would
 stop.  With speech, it just keeps going, and comprehension
 suffers.

 I am really glad to see your passion for promoting the use of
 Braille, and, since you are going to the national convention, I
 want to encourage you to meet and mingle with some of the 
members
 of NAPUB, the National Association to Promote the Use of Braille
 (I hope I defined the acronym right-I know it's NAPUB).  We
 pronounce the acronym "NAY-pub."

 We, in the National Federation of the Blind, do not put Braille
 on the back burner at all, and this is only one of the reasons
 that our movement is so strong and so vital in society.

 Yours,

 Justin Salisbury
 Board Member
 National Association of Blind Students

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
 Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l
 Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:56 PM
 To: RJ Sandefur; National Association of Blind Students mailing
 list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner

 Hello RJ,
 Not for a moment do I believe that Braille has ever been put on
 the back burner.  What about all the Braille  displays that we
 use? Do I think that we might rely on our technology a little 
too
 much? Yes, but, doesn't the rest of society?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

  I feel that Braille is being This was back in 2004.  I bring
 this
 up in
  order to pose this question.  Aren't we as blind people
 depending
 on
  our techknollogy to much? What if your computer brakes down, 
and
 you
  have to use braille? If you don't know braille, then you can
 forget
  about even becoming employed! RJ
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