[nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA

Sean Whalen smwhalenpsp at gmail.com
Tue Jun 24 15:25:43 UTC 2014


Bridget,

I know that Pearson is in the midst of working with us at NFB to improve
accessibility for their whole line of instructional and testing materials. I
am not sure if you will be in Orlando for the convention, but they will be
there. Though it is not quite finalized, I think somebody from Pearson will
be presenting on the NABS agenda about the accessibility of their products.
If you are not coming to Orlando, let me know if you have trouble reaching
the right folks at Pearson and I can try to put you in touch.

Thanks,

Sean

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Today's Topics:

   1. Thank You (Justin Salisbury)
   2. Re: NABS candidates forum questions (Mary Fernandez)
   3. Candidates Forum participation informaation (Mary Fernandez)
   4. Re: Braille being placed on the back burnner (Antonio Guimaraes)
   5. Re: available one gently used electronic talking	dictionary
      for $100 (Antonio Guimaraes)
   6. Re: NABS candidates forum questions (Antonio Guimaraes)
   7. Re: Public Speaking (Antonio Guimaraes)
   8. Re: Braille being placed on the back burnner (Arielle Silverman)
   9. Fwd: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research (Arielle Silverman)
  10. Re: available one gently used electronic talking dictionary
      for $100 (Joshua Hendrickson)
  11. Two questions EDTPA (Bridget Walker)
  12. Re: Two questions EDTPA (Minhh Ha)
  13. Re: Two questions EDTPA (Ashley Bramlett)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:56:24 +0000
From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
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	Presidents (nabs-presidents at nfbnet.org)"
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Fellow Federationists:

Before I begin the main content of this message, I want to talk with
everyone briefly about how to read my messages.
During evening airlight flights, it is customary for passenters to look out
their windows and view the lights on the ground beneath them. When flying
between New York and Boston, there remains one stretch of land where there
is total darkness: the hills of northeastern Connecticut, often called "The
Last Green Valley." This is where I grew up, and this is where I learned
many of my speech patterns. Our words are direct and authentic, and we do
not communicate by inserting meaning between the lines. If we feel
something, we express it specifically.
I really appreciate the discussion we've generated about the progress and
future of NABS, as well as the philosophical relationship between
organizations and individualism. I like to think deeply about the world and
am grateful to have friends who will do it with me, especially about
something so important.

When I asked about transparency, I was truly looking for members' opinions
to help draw a conclusion about our progress and to help formulate future
plans. I always want to understand our movement better, and, as Gabe said,
this is something we have been discussing for a while. I especially
appreciate the posts of Elizabeth Mohnke, Garrett Mooney, and Arielle. These
three outlined the needs for improvement, the success we've achieved, and
the road to get there; I take them to heart.

On the discussion of individualism and organizations, I have also seen great
comments. I love the ideas about self-awareness. A point that I would like
to insert is that the individual and organization can strengthen each other,
and I believe that this is the case in the Federation. I am stronger and
more successful because of the Federation, and I like to believe that the
Federation is stronger and more successful because of me.

In some messages on this list, it appears to me that some here think that I
have some negative feelings toward the rest of our board, and I'm not sure
how to effectively demonstrate that this is not the case. I still love each
and every member of the NABS board. Siblings can disagree on things and
still love each other. Life is too short to hold onto negative feelings.
Sean has been a mentor and teacher to me, and I believe that I have gotten
from him what I need in order to serve in his position effectively. The most
important role of any president is preparing the membership for the days
after his departure. We have what we need. When I explain the areas where I
want to focus on strengthening NABS, it does not mean that we are horrible
failures in those areas; it simply means I am most interested in focusing on
those areas.

If I am elected President of the National Association of Blind Students, I
will bring authentic and direct communication with no messages between the
lines. I want to focus on strengthening the relationship between NABS and
the National Federation of the Blind and those between the NABS board and
the state student divisions. I am always thinking about ways to improve and
do not fear that an effort to improve condemns past progress. Your NABS is
my NABS, and I want our NABS to be the best NABS it can be.

Sincerely yours,

Justin Salisbury
Board Member
National Association of Blind Students
Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu<mailto:President at Alumni.ECU.edu>
Twitter: @_JSalisbury



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:59:38 -0400
From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
To: justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>, 	National
	Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
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Here is the link again:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
Thanks.
And thank you for the kind odds Darian.
Mary F

On 6/23/14, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Okay; can you resend me the email to that?
> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian 
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 7:09 PM
> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>
> Dear all,
> I don't know about all of you but I'm very appreciative to Mary 
> Fernandez for her tireless work in putting together our mentoring 
> program and candidates forum.
> Mary is an example of an individual who ran for a board position, 
> didn't get it, but saw that she never really needed it in order to 
> make an impact and to do her part in advancing our cause My hope is 
> that we all can support her by submitting a question or two to use as 
> a part of this election forum
>
> Efforts such as this, that the individuals both on and off of the nabs 
> bored undertake both in front and behind-the-scenes are just what is 
> needed to make sure that the organization is being served.
> We as leaders have the opportunity and obligation to do the best that 
> we can and constantly seek out ways to improve in all aspects of what we
do.
> Equally so, our membership has a responsibility to not only seek out 
> ways that the board/division can improve, but to be active 
> participants and helping the division improve as a vehicle for 
> collective action and a mechanism of change is just one part of the 
> national Federation of the blind.
>   So, let's build and support, learn and grow,, challenge and commend 
> each other.
> And now... Let's help make this the best candidates forum yet!
>
>   Darian
>
>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Joe via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> When I was an active member of NABS, there is one question I wish 
>> each person running for office could have answered, and it's a 
>> question I should have been forced to answer before I took my spot in 
>> the NABS board almost ten years ago.
>>
>> What do you hope to accomplish as a NABS board member that you could 
>> not accomplish as a general member?
>>
>> --
>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>
>> Visit my blog:
>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Fernandez via nabs-l
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:05 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Presidents
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>>
>> All,
>> In lieu of the conversations which have been taking place on this 
>> list, it is a bit surprising that just one person has submitted 
>> questions for the NABS candidates' forum.
>> The forum will take place on Wednesday 6/25 at 8:00 pm EST.
>> All of the questions asked of the presidential candidates will have 
>> been questions submitted by you, the membership. So if you have any 
>> burning questions please visit the following link and submit them.
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
>> Take this opportunity to really think about where you want this 
>> organization to go, and finding out which of the candidates would be 
>> the best to take it there. I will be closing the survey at Midnight 
>> tomorrow.
>> I'll be sending a follow up announcement with the details of the 
>> call, but in the meantime take a minute to submit a question or two!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mary Fernandez
>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will 
>> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
feel."
>> --
>> Maya Angelou
>>
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--
Mary Fernandez
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what
you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
--
Maya Angelou



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 20:50:25 -0400
From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Candidates Forum participation informaation
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Good evening,
Thanks to those of you who have submitted some excellent questions,
please keep them coming!
The forum will take place on
Wednesday June 25
at 8:00 PM EST
It will be moderated by Patti Chang, chair of the scholarship committee.
WE will be using the NABS conference line:
Phone: 605-475-6700
Passcode: 7869673

The candidates participating will be Candice Chapman and Justin
Salisbury, both of whom are running for the President's position.
I know that some of you will be disappointed by the fact that we can't
accommodate other board positions. Though it's something we can
accommodate this year, this is something that, if the membership is
interested in, can probably be arranged for future elections. But
that's something to be decided as a group.
I remember that back in 2011, when we had an amazing campaign from
both presidential candidates, Isaiah Wilcox and Sean Whalen, it
occurred to me, at around 2:00 A.M., that it'd be great to have a
debate. People often complained that no one knew who was running until
they showed up at elections, and at that point, 90- seconds wasn't
enough to get to know a candidate well. That year we had a fantastic
election, and the close numbers as well as the turn out, demonstrated
an engagement and interest on behalf of the membership, and the
excellent job both gentleman had done in campaigning. Lets take this
opportunity to get to know both of our fellow NABS members. But lets
also remember what our responsibility as a membership is. There has
been a lot of back and forth about what NABS has and has not done. And
without commenting on the board, I'd like to remind all of us, that it
is our responsibility to shape the organization to what we want it to
be. As citizens, we must vote, that is the only way we have a voice.
IN this organization, not only can we vote, but we have direct access
to those we have elected to represent us. The greatest accountability
system is not put in place and reinforced by the governing body, it is
created and maintained by those who decided who would govern. I hope
that the discussions which have been sparked in lieu of this election
do not fizzle away when there aren't exciting developments. I hope
that they continue, that they grow, and that they energize this
organization. Students and young professionals have the opportunity
not only to shape NABS but the NFB at large, but the only way to shape
is to be involved. So please, use all of that incredible energy,
critical thinking, and creativity to change and improve the
organization, and to nurture each other's skills and leadership. Don't
be afraid to think up ideas and call up whoever it takes to have
someone listen to them. Be ready to implement them. Come up with
innovative projects which can benefit the blind, and make them happen.
I hope that one day we will have not two but five or six NABS members
who want to run for president, and that the competition be intense,
because each member has contributed so much, that we as members will
have a hard time choosing.
All of that was to say to submit questions and call in on Wednesday!
But I did get a bit inspired...  --
Mary Fernandez
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
feel."
--
Maya Angelou



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:05:54 -0400
From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
To: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com,	National Association of Blind Students
	mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner
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I agree that braille is alive today.

I don?t subscribe to the argument that technology will break down, and one
can?t function without it.

Technology and digital braille only means that braille is lighter, ad more
portable. It is also searchable, editable, and flexible.

Try carrying a braille writer with you at all times. add to that all the
notes you think you?ll need. Try maintaining a calendar in braille, changing
appointments in it, and making recurring appointments for repeating tasks.

I tried some of that once, and I could not maintain reliable appointment
calendar even with an entire page listing date and time. I used a slate for
that, and it took me time to get out the folder, find the day, read it,
change it,. I could never err ace, replace, or insert appointments, and I
ran out of space once I allocated a few lines to a time slot.

This system would not allow me to search for the anticipated NABS
presidential forum by subject. Finding it would require reading through a
lot of braille pages, and maybe never finding the thing.

Add the Braille Sense, and most of my note-taking needs are taken care of. I
use braille functionally, and I?m never giving it up.

See you somewhere at the exhibit hall on Saturday at convention. Wait, that
was the wrong day. I?ll have to erase that note, and add a new one to
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday if I have space on my calendar, if not my
schedule,  to add it.

With feeling,

Antonio


On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello RJ,
> Not for a moment do I believe that Braille has ever been put on the back
burner. What about all the Braille  displays that we use? Do I think that we
might rely on our technology a little too much? Yes, but, doesn't the rest
of society?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> I feel that Braille is being This was back in 2004. I bring this up in
order to pose this question. Aren't we as blind people depending on our
techknollogy to much? What if your computer brakes down, and you have to use
braille? If you don't know braille, then you can forget about even becoming
employed! RJ
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:11:48 -0400
From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
To: louvins at gmail.com,	National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] available one gently used electronic talking
	dictionary for $100
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Joshua,

Are you talking about the Franklyn Talking Dictionary?

I appreciate the post, and would encourage the first person to think they
need an accessible dictionary to contact Joshua.

This device costs $450 new, if it is even sold anymore.

There is a thesaurus, grammar guide, pronunciation guide, confusibles
feature, notes list, word list, and some cool games.

I could even use it to correctly spell confusables in the line above.

I just used mine so I don?t misspell confusables twice.

Confused,

Antonio




On Jun 23, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Joshua Hendrickson via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi to all.  I know things aren't really sold on this list, but I was
> thinking what I have might help someone taking a lot of english
> classes.  I have an electronic talking dictionary that runs on four
> double a batteries for $100.  This dictionary has a lot of definitions
> of words, and also has some fun word games that can be played.  I'm
> not using it its just sitting under my bed, and I'd like to find
> someone who can use it.  I have paypal, and will also accept money
> orders.  I hope I'm not out of line by posting this, and I apologize
> in advance if I'm doing something wrong.  I can be reached at
> louvins at gmail.com, and also via phone at 815-209-9817.  If the
> dictionary is sold, it will help me saving up money for technology for
> college.  Have a great day all.
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:19:48 -0400
From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
To: Cindy Bennet <clb5590 at gmail.com>,	National Association of Blind
	Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
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Indeed it would be most helpful to submit the questions off list for the
sake of the process. I?d rather not prep or prompt anyone by posting our
questions publicly.

Antonio

On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Cindy Bennett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> That's a great question! I hope you submitted it on the survey!
> Cindy
> 
> On 6/23/14, Joe via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> When I was an active member of NABS, there is one question I wish each
>> person running for office could have answered, and it's a question I
should
>> have been forced to answer before I took my spot in the NABS board almost
>> ten years ago.
>> 
>> What do you hope to accomplish as a NABS board member that you could not
>> accomplish as a general member?
>> 
>> --
>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>> 
>> Visit my blog:
>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Fernandez
>> via nabs-l
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:05 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Presidents
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>> 
>> All,
>> In lieu of the conversations which have been taking place on this list,
it
>> is a bit surprising that just one person has submitted questions for the
>> NABS candidates' forum.
>> The forum will take place on Wednesday 6/25 at 8:00 pm EST.
>> All of the questions asked of the presidential candidates will have been
>> questions submitted by you, the membership. So if you have any burning
>> questions please visit the following link and submit them.
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
>> Take this opportunity to really think about where you want this
>> organization
>> to go, and finding out which of the candidates would be the best to take
it
>> there. I will be closing the survey at Midnight tomorrow.
>> I'll be sending a follow up announcement with the details of the call,
but
>> in the meantime take a minute to submit a question or two!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mary Fernandez
>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget
>> what
>> you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
>> --
>> Maya Angelou
>> 
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> Cindy Bennett
> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
> 
> B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:29:08 -0400
From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
To: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com,	National Association of Blind Students
	mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Public Speaking
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I would add a couple of things:

Respect time limits or suggested lengths.

and speak about topics you know something about, or have a strong interest
in. You will sound more confident, ad will speak with authority on your
topic.

I?m a sticker for the time thing. I?ve learned to pay attention to fillers
like hmms, ahhs, like, and, so.

my membership in toastmasters has been great for improving my presentation
skills.

Toastmasters is an international public speaking organization, and chances
are there is a club very close to where you live.

Antonio


On Jun 20, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I was in FFA in my high school and went to a state public speaking
competition. My advisor always told me several things to start with. First
comes posture. Stand comfortably, although do not slouch. Keep your head up
and try, although it may sound strange, to keep I contact with your
audience. I accomplish this, as a person with only light perception, by
constantly looking in different directions. I will focus on a particular
side of the room at one point, then will turn my head slightly as my speech
progresses. Next Is your voice. The reason I say to keep your head up is so
that your voice will project properly out to your audience. If you must look
at notecards, which can be done, but I prefer to memorize what I am going to
say, you can definitely use an earbud or something similar to accomplish
this task if your braille skillsare not what you think they should be. Speak
clearly, but do not speak too loudly. This was my downfall at the
competition. I got nervous and spoke too loudly. Although I delivered a good
speech, the audience was alarmed at the volume of my speech. The next thing
I will say maybe a little controversial. This involves hand gestures. I
worked with a sighted person for hours on this, as I did not know what was
natural and what was not. The goal is to use hand gestures to emphasize
points in your speech, while making them natural and not too jerky. This can
be difficult, which is why I recommend practicing a speech in front of
someone who is sided who would be able to give you pointers. Finally,
movement. I like to move when I speak, but, when I do, I move with purpose.
I do not aimlessly walk around the space while talking.  each movement
should have a purpose, either to engage with another part of your audience,
or to emphasize the point. I was always told never to step backwards
deliberately, but this is mainly for a competition. The last thing I will
say is this. Have fun. Public speaking is great, and if you can relax, you
can really get a good point across and enjoy doing it.
> I hope that helps,
> Aleeha
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Shickeytha Chandler via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Happy Friday All,
>> 
>> I am wondering if some of you would be willing to share tips and
>> suggestions for effective public speaking as a blind person. One of my
>> classes in Graduate School this coming semester involves doing several
>> speeches. In my undergrad work, I had to do a few, but let it suffice
>> to say that my public speaking skills were less than stellar. I think
>> part of it is because of not feeling confident because I can't just
>> look down and read from my notes (or a teleprompter, lol) like a
>> sighted person could. My Braille skills are lacking also. I only read
>> uncontracted Braille slowly. I have had a few suggestions that I might
>> try, but I want to get as many ideas as possible. My VR counselor told
>> me about another client who uses a Victor Reader to record speeches in
>> advance and then has headphones playing while he is speaking, and he
>> can pause the player as needed. Additionally, I took a PowerPoint
>> course from the Hadley School last year, and the blind instructor told
>> me that she uses Blue Tooth headphones to listen to her notes as she
>> presents. I would love to hear from any of you who have strong public
>> speaking skills and experience to learn your ideas that might be
>> helpful to me. Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Shickeytha
>> 
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:59:11 -0700
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
To: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>, 	National Association
	of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner
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Without technology, I wouldn't be able to read and write emails and
text messages in contracted Braille. Nor would I be able to write
research papers and send them to sighted colleagues using Braille,
spell-check and grammar-check my students' papers in Braille, etc.
It's ridiculous to pit Braille and technology against each other
because technology makes Braille flexible and portable as Antonio
pointed out. The real problem is that Braille technology is so
expensive it doesn't make Braille affordable or accessible to all.
Arielle

On 6/23/14, Antonio Guimaraes via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I agree that braille is alive today.
>
> I don?t subscribe to the argument that technology will break down, and one
> can?t function without it.
>
> Technology and digital braille only means that braille is lighter, ad more
> portable. It is also searchable, editable, and flexible.
>
> Try carrying a braille writer with you at all times. add to that all the
> notes you think you?ll need. Try maintaining a calendar in braille,
changing
> appointments in it, and making recurring appointments for repeating tasks.
>
> I tried some of that once, and I could not maintain reliable appointment
> calendar even with an entire page listing date and time. I used a slate
for
> that, and it took me time to get out the folder, find the day, read it,
> change it,. I could never err ace, replace, or insert appointments, and I
> ran out of space once I allocated a few lines to a time slot.
>
> This system would not allow me to search for the anticipated NABS
> presidential forum by subject. Finding it would require reading through a
> lot of braille pages, and maybe never finding the thing.
>
> Add the Braille Sense, and most of my note-taking needs are taken care of.
I
> use braille functionally, and I?m never giving it up.
>
> See you somewhere at the exhibit hall on Saturday at convention. Wait,
that
> was the wrong day. I?ll have to erase that note, and add a new one to
> Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday if I have space on my calendar, if not my
> schedule,  to add it.
>
> With feeling,
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello RJ,
>> Not for a moment do I believe that Braille has ever been put on the back
>> burner. What about all the Braille  displays that we use? Do I think that
>> we might rely on our technology a little too much? Yes, but, doesn't the
>> rest of society?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I feel that Braille is being This was back in 2004. I bring this up in
>>> order to pose this question. Aren't we as blind people depending on our
>>> techknollogy to much? What if your computer brakes down, and you have to
>>> use braille? If you don't know braille, then you can forget about even
>>> becoming employed! RJ
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:05:58 -0700
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,	Blind Talk Mailing List
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,
	nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research
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I think this is worthwhile research; please consider participating if
you qualify.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tali Spiegel <spiegeltali at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:36:21 -0400
Subject: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research
To: blindacademics at mailman.rice.edu

Dear all,

I am a doctoral student at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands,
in the sociology department. Alongside that I am also affected with RP. My
current research is on the wellbeing of individuals who are losing their
sight. For that I am looking for individuals who are losing their eyesight
and are willing to take an online survey. If you think you might have the
time and are interested in taking part in my study please click on the link
below. The first page will also indicate in more details who should
participate and what the study is about. In rough lines, if you are above
the age of 18, experiencing vision loss and living in the USA you are
eligible to participate in the study.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HKPHW3R

Many thanks in advance and enjoy your summer,
Tali

-- 
T. (Tali) Spiegel MSc | PhD Candidate | University of Groningen | Grote
Rozenstraat 19, 9712TG Groningen, The Netherlands | T +31 (0) 50 363 6219 |
www.rug.nl/staff/t.spiegel



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:07:23 -0500
From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com>
To: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] available one gently used electronic talking
	dictionary for $100
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Hi to all.  Yes, it is a Franklin Language Master as the dictionary is
called.  I used one of them in the school for the blind where I was
attending several years ago.  I bought one since I really liked them,
but I just don't use mine anymore.  It really is a very fun device.  I
even hooked up the dictionary to an amplifier I had.  Man, was that
ever loud, it didn't hurt the dictionary at all.  It was fun to make
the speech echo or repeat itself when I used some effects my amp had.
I really hope someone can use this.  Have a great evening all.

On 6/23/14, Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> Are you talking about the Franklyn Talking Dictionary?
>
> I appreciate the post, and would encourage the first person to think they
> need an accessible dictionary to contact Joshua.
>
> This device costs $450 new, if it is even sold anymore.
>
> There is a thesaurus, grammar guide, pronunciation guide, confusibles
> feature, notes list, word list, and some cool games.
>
> I could even use it to correctly spell confusables in the line above.
>
> I just used mine so I don?t misspell confusables twice.
>
> Confused,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Joshua Hendrickson via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi to all.  I know things aren't really sold on this list, but I was
>> thinking what I have might help someone taking a lot of english
>> classes.  I have an electronic talking dictionary that runs on four
>> double a batteries for $100.  This dictionary has a lot of definitions
>> of words, and also has some fun word games that can be played.  I'm
>> not using it its just sitting under my bed, and I'd like to find
>> someone who can use it.  I have paypal, and will also accept money
>> orders.  I hope I'm not out of line by posting this, and I apologize
>> in advance if I'm doing something wrong.  I can be reached at
>> louvins at gmail.com, and also via phone at 815-209-9817.  If the
>> dictionary is sold, it will help me saving up money for technology for
>> college.  Have a great day all.
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:26:45 -0400
From: Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>
To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
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Hi all,
Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA degree
in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. I start
grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with undergrad.
With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the
corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of the
LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in
English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the EDTPA.
The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration  student
teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the worst of
videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is
reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going
through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it
is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader. 
I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no one
knows what to do.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Bridget
         

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:41:54 -0400
From: Minhh Ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
To: Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>,	National Association of
	Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
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Hi Bridget,

I don't know anything about the EDTPA, but Pearson has a whole accessibility
division that handles stuff like this. You should get in touch with them and
see what kind of support they offer. I've worked with them before for an
online platform thing I was using for hs and they were very helpful.

Minh

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Bridget Walker via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA
degree in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. I
start grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with undergrad.
> With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the
corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of the
LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in
English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the EDTPA.
> The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration
student teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the worst
of videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is
reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
> I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going
through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it
is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader. 
> I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no
one knows what to do.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Bridget
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:47:03 -0400
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Bridget Walker" <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>,	"National
Association
	of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
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hi,
wow, a ba in education! which part of education?
I tried it but was so discouraged. observing kids did not work so well for 
one thing. I also had an assignment in a reading class to read interactively

to a child and I had no support.  they did not give me resources to find 
kids and I new none; so, finally in despiration my Ra found one cause I 
asked her.
I ran out of time to do the assignment. Most of the braille books I found 
were those he heard already and some of the time he was fidgity or moving 
about in front of me so I could not tell if he was listening well.
Being limited to braille books really sucked as it really limited my 
selection.

I  did not even do the running record assessment because I had no kid to do 
it with nor did I really know how to complete it nonvisually.
It was overwelming and discouraging.

To answer your question, I don't know. my experience with a pearson online 
software was  not positive; myMathLab wasn't assessible. I'm wondering if 
you could use a reader. that would be my best suggestion for an accomodation

particularly with a video.
What will you study for the masters?

Good luck.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridget Walker via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:26 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA

Hi all,
Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA degree

in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. I start 
grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with undergrad.
With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the 
corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of the 
LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in 
English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the EDTPA.
The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration  student 
teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the worst of 
videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is 
reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going 
through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it 
is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader.
I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no one

knows what to do.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Bridget


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